[Isis-users] Problem with search

Thu Dec 13 17:02:27 CET 2012

Dear Edwin,

Yes, I have deleted a lot from the Winisis database, especially in title fields: alle quotation marks, and also all hooks < > around the stopwords used in Title fields, but I kept the stopword file in the /data folder of the database.
So, the alphabetical order of Titles (TI_) is now good.
Indeed I see that it takes the 60 characters including prefix.
All accents etc. are good in the text of the fields of the records. And search on words with accents goes well for searches on TW_ (fst index method 8), using the index.

Unfortunately, the problem that some titles do not show up in the results is still there, when I search  using the index of Title.

FST for the title fields 12 and 18 (for line):

12 5 '/TI_/',(v12/) 

12 5 '/TI_/',(v18/)

When I do not use index and I type the first word of a title (and putting $ behind it) in the search form in the field for Title the result is good: For instance:
culicoides$ 
gives good result with 4 records.

See here some examples of searches using the index of Title, with 0 results and with good results.
See you something what the problem is?

Kind regards, 
Mia

Examples of searches:

Expression: (TI_POLYCHLORINATED BIPHENYL (PCB) AND
DICHLORDIPHENYL DICHLO)

records: 0

Text of title in record (field 12):

12 Title:: Polychlorinated Biphenyl (PCB) and
Dichlordiphenyl Dichloroethylene (DDE) concentrations in the breast milk of
woman in Quebec

_____________________________________________________

Expression: (TI_POLYCHLORINATED BIPHENYLS (PCBS) AND
POLYCHLORINATED TERP)

records: 0

Text of title in record (field 18):

18 Title:: Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCBs) and
Polychlorinated Terphenyls (PCTs) health and safety guide

_____________________________________________________

Expression: (TI_POLYCHLORINATED DIBENZO-PARA-DIOXINS AND
POLYCHLORINATED)

records: 0

Text of title in record (field 12):

12 Title:: Polychlorinated dibenzo-para-dioxins and
polychlorinated dibenzofurans in sediments from U.K. Estuaries

_____________________________________________________

The following search
has a good result with the right record:

Expression: (TI_EFFECTS OF POLYCHLORINATED BIPHENYLS,
DIBENZO-P-DIOXINS,) 

save
search expression

3 Phys. location:: CMO; NZCS 

8 Control number:: Tox 773 

10 Author(s):: Bosveld, A.T.C.(B); 

Berg, M. van den

12 Title:: Effects of polychlorinated biphenyls,
dibenzo-p-dioxins, and dibenzofurans on fish-eating birds

_____________________________________________________

Expression: (TI_CULICOIDES (DIPTERA: CERATOPOGONIDAE) NA
AMAZONIA BRASILE)

records: 0

There are 2 records with such beginning of the title:

Text of title in records (field 12):

12 Title:: Culicoides (Diptera: Ceratopogonidae) na
Amazônia Brasileira 1. Coletas na Usina Hidreletrica (UHE) de Balbina, Usina
Hidrelétrica (UHE) Cachoeira Porteira e Cachoeira dos Espelhos (Rio Xingú).

and a record with:

12 Title:: Culicoides (Diptera: Ceratopogonidae) na
Amazônia Brasileira 2. Espécies coletadas na reserva florestal Ducke, aspectos
ecologicos e distribuiçao geográfica.

_____________________________________________________

Expression: (TI_CULICOIDES LATREILLE (DIPTERA:
CERATOPOGONIDAE) DA AMAZON)

records: 0

Text of title in record (field 12):

12 Title:: Culicoides Latreille (Diptera:
Ceratopogonidae) da Amazônia III. Resultados de coletas noturnas na Reserva
Florestal Ducke, Estado do Amazonas, Brasil.

_____________________________________________________

The following search
has a good result with the right record:

Expression: (TI_CULICOIDES TAVARESI, A NEW SPECIES FROM THE
STATE OF RIO) 

save
search expression

3 Phys. location:: NZCS 

8 Control number:: I 648 

10 Author(s):: Felippe-Baue, M.L.; 

Wirth, W.W. 

12 Title:: Culicoides tavaresi, a new species from the state of Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil (Diptera: Ceratopogonidae). 

14 Pages:: pp. 261-263. 

30 Title serial/series:: Memorias do Instituto Oswaldo Cruz.

> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:12:50 -0200
> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] Problem with search
> From: edwin.hubner at gmail.com
> To: nzcs_libr at hotmail.com
> CC: isis-users at iccisis.org
> 
> Hi Mia,
> I remembered something that may be your problem: If the title has
> quotation marks at the beginning, eg "some text", a search by title
> index will result zero
> The maximum size of an index is 60 characteres, including the prefix.
> Regards,
> Edwin
> 
> 2012/12/3 National Zoological Collection Suriname Library
> <nzcs_libr at hotmail.com>:
> > Dear Edwin,
> >
> > The problem stays with search on a title via index, for some records. It
> > gives 0 (zero) records as result. I tried it with a small database to see
> > what went wrong. But I don't know. Is the fst right? and the advanced search
> > form? Can it handle titles longer than 58 or 60 characters?
> > When searching on all words (TW), that is going well, when I put 'and'
> > between the terms of the title.
> > The text of the fields is ok, with all accents etc., using your 2 files in
> > /data folder.
> >
> > My computer has Windows 7 Enterprise. (2009, version 6.1)
> >
> > ABCD version is: ABCD 1.2 beta1 version COLBIB / AdeKUS 2011 VLIR/UOS and
> > BIREME
> >
> >
> > Regards, Mia
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:47:03 -0200
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] Problem with search
> >> From: edwin.hubner at gmail.com
> >> To: nzcs_libr at hotmail.com
> >>
> >> Hi Mia,
> >> I put these files in the /data folder of the database, because it is
> >> simpler, but you can put them in another folder and enter the path
> >> preceeding the file name within the mx command..
> >> Regards,
> >> Edwin
> >>
> >> 2012/11/30 National Zoological Collection Suriname Library
> >> <nzcs_libr at hotmail.com>:
> >> > Thank you, Edwin. In which folder should I put these files?
> >> > Mia
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:05:01 -0200
> >> >
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] Problem with search
> >> >> From: edwin.hubner at gmail.com
> >> >> To: nzcs_libr at hotmail.com
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Mia,
> >> >> maybe your isisac.tab and isisuc.tab files, used for indexing, are
> >> >> not the same that I use, because I have no problem with accents. I am
> >> >> attaching these files. Do a test, please, and tell me if it is OK.
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Edwin
> >> >>
> >> >> 2012/11/29 National Zoological Collection Suriname Library
> >> >> <nzcs_libr at hotmail.com>:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Dear Edwin,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > yes that went right.
> >> >> > But still the search using title index is not working.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Expression: (TI_CULICOIDES (DIPTERA: CERATOPOGONIDAE) NA AMAZôNIA
> >> >> > BRASILE)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > records: 0
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is wrong?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards, Mia
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:54:24 -0200
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] Problem with search
> >> >> >> From: edwin.hubner at gmail.com
> >> >> >> To: nzcs_libr at hotmail.com
> >> >> >> CC: isis-users at iccisis.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dear Mia,
> >> >> >> Remember that WinISIS uses ASC II character set, while ABCD uses
> >> >> >> Ansi
> >> >> >> character set. So you need to use the parameter convert=ansi. Your
> >> >> >> command should be:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> mx iso=c:\\winisis\work\5300.iso convert=ansi
> >> >> >> create=c:\\abcd\www\bases\nztst\data\nztst now -all
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Regrads,
> >> >> >> Edwin
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2012/11/29 National Zoological Collection Suriname Library
> >> >> >> <nzcs_libr at hotmail.com>:
> >> >> >> > mx iso=c:\\winisis\work\5300.iso
> >> >> >> > create=c:\\abcd\www\bases\nztst\data\nztst
> >> >> >> > now -all

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