[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats

María Mercedes MacLean gaspyy60 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 29 00:03:36 CEST 2014


It is true they don't see each other the %s but other symbols are come that don't see them in the load...  
Example  
It loads  
^aEraldo Crea^e<l'>autonomia e l'unità: il sindacato soggetto politico^escritti e discorsi 1962-1991^fEraldo Crea^ga cura di Giorgio Alessandrini  
And in the file iso you leave:  
^aEraldo Crea^e<l'>autonomia e l'unit.: il sindacato soggetto politico~^escritti e discorsi 1962-1991^fEraldo Crea^ga cura di Giorgio Alessandrini  
  
As can see a appears ~ that is maybe the%  
  
I will publish the MFN 4 and to export it to see as I see it me with%
M.M.MacLean
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Giuzzo Barbaro 
  To: spinaker ; isis-users at iccisis.org ; Jean-Claude Dauphin 
  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats


  Dear Ernesto and Jean-Claude

  Thank you for the hint, but the problem is that the ISO file apparently has no % character: In the export form -from DOS version- I selected the # character as record delimiter and ~ (Alt+126) character as field delimiter. (The % character is only used in data entry worksheets, but it does not appear in the export ISO files, or at least I cannot see it - I sent some sample ISO file in a previous mail, so you can check).

  :-(

  Kind regards
  giuzzo
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: spinaker 
    To: isis-users at iccisis.org 
    Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats


    Dear Giuzzo

    Yes, this trick works, because I do this kind of customization of  ISO files very often

    Regards
    Ernesto Spinak


    El 28/04/2014 17:25, Jean-Claude Dauphin escribió:

      Dear Giuzzo, 


      I think that you can edit the ISO file with a text editor and replace the % character by another one such as  the & character. I am not sure but it may work.


      Best wishes,
      Jean-Claude





      On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro <g.barbaro at mclink.net> wrote:

        Dear Egbert and Jean-Claude

        many thanks for your valuable hints. It seems now to be working ...!  :-)

        Egbert, you' re perfectly right: the indexing technique 0 (instead of 5) in field 26 in the FST is a real mistake.
        I didn't even notice that in the JISIS dictionary there was no entry "Z=xxx" (in the sample I sent).
        The very strange fact is that the (wrong) syntax (26, 0, mpu,"Z="V26) in the FST worked perfectly for more than 20 years in hundreds and hundreds of libraries using TECAdb in the CDS/ISIS-WinISIS versions (!?)  (in facts you can easily check that in the sample ISIS "DOS" version I attached to the mail, you can find all the "Z=" terms in the Inverted file, despite the wrong syntax!).

        Anyway, I changed the FST as you suggested and tried your test-PFT and it works!
        Now I'll try to change all the PFT's in a correct way (and may be I will need your help again, because now I'm getting some parsing error... :-(  )

        Thanks again

        (I'm still having problems with the repeatable subfields, as I told you...I understand that this is probably due somehow to a certain "misuse" of the repetitions)

        Kind regards
        bye 

        giuzzo


        ----- Original Message ----- From: "De Smet Egbert" <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
        To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net>

        Cc: "Jean-Claude Dauphin" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
        Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:37 PM 

        Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats


        Hello again,

        no need to apologize, I only wanted to make clear why there was no immediate reply.
        Now, I checked your PFT and I think the problem is with the syntax.

        First of all I changed the line creating the 'Z=' entries, by making it technique 5 (instead of 0) :
        26 5 '/Z=/',mpu,(V26/)
        as before that I didn't see any Z= entries in your dictionary.

        Then I created the following PFT for testing the REF-function (e.g. called 'testref') :
        (if p(v27) then
        REF(L('Z='v27),
        'V1='v1'  ',
        'V26='v26'    ',
        'V29='v29/'<BR>')
        else 'no references' fi)

        and the output for MFN 2 is, in my opinion correct :
        V1=^aInferno V26=005555 V29=1
        V1=^aPurgatorio V26=005556 V29=2
        V1=^aParadiso V26=005557 V29=3

        Based on this output from the basic model PFT for the REF-function, I think you should be able to correct your PFT with correct output.
        If you don't manage, let us know.
        Egbert de Smet
        Universiteit Antwerpen
        ________________________________________
        From: Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net]
        Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:49 PM
        To: De Smet Egbert
        Cc: Jean-Claude Dauphin
        Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats

        Dear Egbert, Dear Jean-Claude

        Thank you for your kind interest.
        I am perfectly aware that you -and many people in the ISIS community- are
        working mostly on a "voluntary basis" for the ISIS project, and all of us
        are
        very grateful to you for all the efforts (and the great work) you have done
        and still are doing for us.
        Therefore I apologize if I gave to you the impression to ask (or worse
        "claim"...!) for a quick solution: it was absolutely far from my intentions.
        I just wanted to share a problem with people having a much deeper knowledge
        than mine, thinking that maybe other people encountered -and solved- the
        same problems,
        and I sent the files attached to my previous mail because I was asked to do
        so by someone. In the last days I shared with friends living near me the
        great surprise and the honour of getting an (unespected) answer from you to
        my emails.

        (I can simply add that working on a "voluntary basis" applies somehow also
        to me-at a much lower level, as I was asked to solve this problem -on a free
        basis, of course, as usual...- by others who updated their machines to
        64-bit ones, and this is not "my" database - I am only a school Math
        teacher, with a little ISIS knowledge due to many years of usage.)

        Therefore it is not my intention to abuse your kindness and your time, not
        to put anyone in a hurry to solve my problems, please trust me. English is
        not my native language, and maybe some of my expressions are not a correct
        translation of my real thoughts and feelings.

        Kind regards
        giuzzo

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "De Smet Egbert" <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
        To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net>; "Jcd" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
        Cc: <isis-users at iccisis.org>
        Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:01 PM
        Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
        Files -andPFTFormats


        Hello,

        in order to fully check your problem (which is in fact the 'repeatable
        subfield' problem, something which originally was NOT envisaged by
        ISIS-technology) a careful setup is required and this simply takes some more
        time to be set aside for finding out. None of us is full-time freed from
        other professional responsibilities to deal with such issues, it is all
        about voluntary time and efforts, hoping to sustain the ISIS-technology.
        When we discussed the REF-function for J-ISIS the idea was to fully copy its
        functionality from WinISIS (in fact such 'run-time'-on-demand
        semi-relational capability is something other database technology is envying
        ISIS for), so that for sure should be tested carefully and if found wrong
        corrected. Maybe your data provide us with interesting testing data, that
        can be useful indeed.
        So, some patience please.

        Egbert de Smet
        Universiteit Antwerpen
        ________________________________________
        From: isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org] on
        behalf of Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net]
        Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:54 AM
        To: Jcd
        Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org
        Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -
        andPFTFormats

        Dear Jean-Claude
        yesterday I sent this mail to you, with some attachments, but I got an NDR
        message from your server (message too big (?) - it was not so big, about
        160kB...). So I decided to cut the old conversations and try to send it
        again to you.
        Thanks
        Kind regards
        giuzzo
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Giuzzo Barbaro<mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>
        To: María Mercedes MacLean<mailto:gaspyy at infovia.com.ar> ;
        Jcd<mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com> ; De Smet
        Egbert<mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
        Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
        Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:46 PM
        Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -
        andPFTFormats

        Dear Jean-Claude, Maria Mercedes, Egbert and all friends,

        attached to this mail you'll find some files (in .zip format) - 2 export
        .ISO files and the TECA db structure,  and an explanation (Word) of the work
        I have done, to explain in a simple (?) way the problems I have encountered.
        Thaks again for your help.
        Have a nice weekend
        Kind regards
        Giuzzo

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