[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats
spinaker
spinaker at adinet.com.uy
Tue Apr 29 00:23:17 CEST 2014
Dear Giuzzo
You can do a global change specific to a single field using MX utility
Let's say your target field is v100
then you need a gizmo file, let's name it gsfldcolon
the command should be
*
mx TECA gizmo=gsfldcolon,100 iso=TECA.iso now -all tell=1000*
to create such gizmo file you can do directly from the command line
*mx seq=con create=sfldcolon now * [then will open a new line to write]
*^e|:
F6 ( or Ctl+Z)*
ready!!!
Regards
Ernesto Spinak
El 28/04/2014 19:06, Giuzzo Barbaro escribió:
> Dear friends,
>
> In facts to solve the problem of the 'missing titles' in a practical
> way, I was thinking about making a sort of "global change" in the ISO
> file, changing "~^e" with " : " , which is the correct ISBD(M) syntax
> for this subfield in the title area (indeed there is no real need to
> use a repeatable subfield in this particular case) - or similars. But
> the problem is that this change may affect all the ^e subfields also
> in the other fields in the whole database, if any. And the syntax is
> not always the same. How can I make a global change only in field 1 in
> the whole ISO file (or similar actions)?
>
> Good night to you all
> Giuzzo
>
> Il giorno 28/apr/2014, alle ore 22:59, spinaker
> <spinaker at adinet.com.uy <mailto:spinaker at adinet.com.uy>> ha scritto:
>
>> Dear Giuzzo
>>
>> You are right, repeatable char is only used in the data entry
>> worksheet, because the repetition feature is managed by the directory
>> section of the Record,
>> Anyway, you always can edit an ISO record as a text file,
>>
>> Regards
>> Ernesto
>>
>> El 28/04/2014 17:54, Giuzzo Barbaro escribió:
>>> Dear Ernesto and Jean-Claude
>>> Thank you for the hint, but the problem is that the ISO file
>>> apparently has no % character: In the export form -from DOS version-
>>> I selected the # character as record delimiter and ~ (Alt+126)
>>> character as field delimiter. (The % character is only used in data
>>> entry worksheets, but it does not appear in the export ISO files, or
>>> at least I cannot see it - I sent some sample ISO file in a previous
>>> mail, so you can check).
>>> :-(
>>> Kind regards
>>> giuzzo
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* spinaker <mailto:spinaker at adinet.com.uy>
>>> *To:* isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 28, 2014 10:36 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files
>>> -andPFTFormats
>>>
>>> Dear Giuzzo
>>>
>>> Yes, this trick works, because I do this kind of customization
>>> of ISO files very often
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ernesto Spinak
>>>
>>>
>>> El 28/04/2014 17:25, Jean-Claude Dauphin escribió:
>>>> Dear Giuzzo,
>>>>
>>>> I think that you can edit the ISO file with a text editor and
>>>> replace the % character by another one such as the &
>>>> character. I am not sure but it may work.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Jean-Claude
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro
>>>> <g.barbaro at mclink.net <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Egbert and Jean-Claude
>>>>
>>>> many thanks for your valuable hints. It seems now to be
>>>> working ...! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Egbert, you' re perfectly right: the indexing technique 0
>>>> (instead of 5) in field 26 in the FST is a real mistake.
>>>> I didn't even notice that in the JISIS dictionary there was
>>>> no entry "Z=xxx" (in the sample I sent).
>>>> The very strange fact is that the (wrong) syntax (26, 0,
>>>> mpu,"Z="V26) in the FST worked perfectly for more than 20
>>>> years in hundreds and hundreds of libraries using TECAdb in
>>>> the CDS/ISIS-WinISIS versions (!?) (in facts you can
>>>> easily check that in the sample ISIS "DOS" version I
>>>> attached to the mail, you can find all the "Z=" terms in
>>>> the Inverted file, despite the wrong syntax!).
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I changed the FST as you suggested and tried your
>>>> test-PFT and it works!
>>>> Now I'll try to change all the PFT's in a correct way (and
>>>> may be I will need your help again, because now I'm getting
>>>> some parsing error... :-( )
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again
>>>>
>>>> (I'm still having problems with the repeatable subfields,
>>>> as I told you...I understand that this is probably due
>>>> somehow to a certain "misuse" of the repetitions)
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> bye
>>>>
>>>> giuzzo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "De Smet Egbert"
>>>> <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be
>>>> <mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
>>>> To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net
>>>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>>
>>>> Cc: "Jean-Claude Dauphin" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:37 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>>>> Files -andPFTFormats
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello again,
>>>>
>>>> no need to apologize, I only wanted to make clear why there
>>>> was no immediate reply.
>>>> Now, I checked your PFT and I think the problem is with the
>>>> syntax.
>>>>
>>>> First of all I changed the line creating the 'Z=' entries,
>>>> by making it technique 5 (instead of 0) :
>>>> 26 5 '/Z=/',mpu,(V26/)
>>>> as before that I didn't see any Z= entries in your dictionary.
>>>>
>>>> Then I created the following PFT for testing the
>>>> REF-function (e.g. called 'testref') :
>>>> (if p(v27) then
>>>> REF(L('Z='v27),
>>>> 'V1='v1' ',
>>>> 'V26='v26' ',
>>>> 'V29='v29/'<BR>')
>>>> else 'no references' fi)
>>>>
>>>> and the output for MFN 2 is, in my opinion correct :
>>>> V1=^aInferno V26=005555 V29=1
>>>> V1=^aPurgatorio V26=005556 V29=2
>>>> V1=^aParadiso V26=005557 V29=3
>>>>
>>>> Based on this output from the basic model PFT for the
>>>> REF-function, I think you should be able to correct your
>>>> PFT with correct output.
>>>> If you don't manage, let us know.
>>>> Egbert de Smet
>>>> Universiteit Antwerpen
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net
>>>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:49 PM
>>>> To: De Smet Egbert
>>>> Cc: Jean-Claude Dauphin
>>>> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>>>> Files -andPFTFormats
>>>>
>>>> Dear Egbert, Dear Jean-Claude
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your kind interest.
>>>> I am perfectly aware that you -and many people in the ISIS
>>>> community- are
>>>> working mostly on a "voluntary basis" for the ISIS project,
>>>> and all of us
>>>> are
>>>> very grateful to you for all the efforts (and the great
>>>> work) you have done
>>>> and still are doing for us.
>>>> Therefore I apologize if I gave to you the impression to
>>>> ask (or worse
>>>> "claim"...!) for a quick solution: it was absolutely far
>>>> from my intentions.
>>>> I just wanted to share a problem with people having a much
>>>> deeper knowledge
>>>> than mine, thinking that maybe other people encountered
>>>> -and solved- the
>>>> same problems,
>>>> and I sent the files attached to my previous mail because I
>>>> was asked to do
>>>> so by someone. In the last days I shared with friends
>>>> living near me the
>>>> great surprise and the honour of getting an (unespected)
>>>> answer from you to
>>>> my emails.
>>>>
>>>> (I can simply add that working on a "voluntary basis"
>>>> applies somehow also
>>>> to me-at a much lower level, as I was asked to solve this
>>>> problem -on a free
>>>> basis, of course, as usual...- by others who updated their
>>>> machines to
>>>> 64-bit ones, and this is not "my" database - I am only a
>>>> school Math
>>>> teacher, with a little ISIS knowledge due to many years of
>>>> usage.)
>>>>
>>>> Therefore it is not my intention to abuse your kindness and
>>>> your time, not
>>>> to put anyone in a hurry to solve my problems, please trust
>>>> me. English is
>>>> not my native language, and maybe some of my expressions
>>>> are not a correct
>>>> translation of my real thoughts and feelings.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> giuzzo
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "De Smet Egbert" <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be
>>>> <mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
>>>> To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net
>>>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>>; "Jcd" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>>
>>>> Cc: <isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:01 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>>>> Files -andPFTFormats
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> in order to fully check your problem (which is in fact the
>>>> 'repeatable
>>>> subfield' problem, something which originally was NOT
>>>> envisaged by
>>>> ISIS-technology) a careful setup is required and this
>>>> simply takes some more
>>>> time to be set aside for finding out. None of us is
>>>> full-time freed from
>>>> other professional responsibilities to deal with such
>>>> issues, it is all
>>>> about voluntary time and efforts, hoping to sustain the
>>>> ISIS-technology.
>>>> When we discussed the REF-function for J-ISIS the idea was
>>>> to fully copy its
>>>> functionality from WinISIS (in fact such 'run-time'-on-demand
>>>> semi-relational capability is something other database
>>>> technology is envying
>>>> ISIS for), so that for sure should be tested carefully and
>>>> if found wrong
>>>> corrected. Maybe your data provide us with interesting
>>>> testing data, that
>>>> can be useful indeed.
>>>> So, some patience please.
>>>>
>>>> Egbert de Smet
>>>> Universiteit Antwerpen
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: isis-users
>>>> [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org
>>>> <mailto:ua.ac.be at iccisis.org>] on
>>>> behalf of Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net
>>>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:54 AM
>>>> To: Jcd
>>>> Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>>>> Files -
>>>> andPFTFormats
>>>>
>>>> Dear Jean-Claude
>>>> yesterday I sent this mail to you, with some attachments,
>>>> but I got an NDR
>>>> message from your server (message too big (?) - it was not
>>>> so big, about
>>>> 160kB...). So I decided to cut the old conversations and
>>>> try to send it
>>>> again to you.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> giuzzo
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Giuzzo Barbaro<mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net
>>>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>>
>>>> To: María Mercedes MacLean<mailto:gaspyy at infovia.com.ar
>>>> <mailto:gaspyy at infovia.com.ar>> ;
>>>> Jcd<mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>> ; De Smet
>>>> Egbert<mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be
>>>> <mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
>>>> Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org
>>>> <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org><mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org
>>>> <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:46 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>>>> Files -
>>>> andPFTFormats
>>>>
>>>> Dear Jean-Claude, Maria Mercedes, Egbert and all friends,
>>>>
>>>> attached to this mail you'll find some files (in .zip
>>>> format) - 2 export
>>>> .ISO files and the TECA db structure, and an explanation
>>>> (Word) of the work
>>>> I have done, to explain in a simple (?) way the problems I
>>>> have encountered.
>>>> Thaks again for your help.
>>>> Have a nice weekend
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Giuzzo
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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