[Isis-users] Authority data base

[Edwin Hübner]

Hi Maria Mercedes and Egbert,
Yes, I have changed the fst of 400 to
'/AU_/',(v400^a,| |v400^b,| |v400^c,| |v400^d,| - |v400^x,'%'/),

Field 100 always has only one occurrence, as in this example:
100 ®1#^aAguilar, José Roberto, ^d1941-^xAcervo¯
400 ®1#^aJosé Roberto Aguilar.¯
400 ®##^aAguilar.¯
Regards,
Edwin Hübner
(5521)99647-1675


Em qua, 31 de jul de 2019 às 19:45, Maria Mercedes MacLean <
gaspyy em infovia.com.ar> escreveu:

> Edwin, estoy siguiendolos a ti y a Egbert…
>
> La FST sigue asi?
>
> 100 5 p(v100^a del mpu,if) entonces '/ AU_ / ', v100^a, | | el v100^b, | |
> el v100^c, | | el v100^d, | - | el v100^x, '% ', fi,
>
>
>
> 400 5 p(v400^a del mpu,if) entonces '/ AU_ / ', (el v400^a, | | el v400^b,
> | | el v400^c, | | el v400^d, | - | el v400^x |% | /), fi,
>
>
>
> No entiendo si cambiaste algo…
>
> Gracias!!!
>
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>
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> *De:* isis-users [mailto:isis-users-bounces+gaspyy=
> infovia.com.ar em iccisis.org] *En nombre de *Edwin Hübner
> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 31 de julio de 2019 06:58 p.m.
> *Para:* Egbert De Smet
> *CC:* isis-users
> *Asunto:* Re: [Isis-users] Othority data base
>
>
>
> Hi Egbert,
>
> Based on your explanation, I found out that there really was a problem
> with my fst. At the end of the line I had ^x|%|, so the % would only be
> used if there exist a ^x, I changed it to ^x,'%' and now the print of the
> command mx author fst=@ shows ^o1 and ^o2, as you can see,
>
> 100  «AU_AGUILAR, JOSÚ ROBERTO,  1941- - ACERVO^m10^o1^c1^l2»
> 400  «AU_JOSÚ ROBERTO AGUILAR.^m10^o1^c1^l2»
> 400  «AU_AGUILAR.^m10^o2^c1^l1»
>
> But it didn't solve the problem. When I click on Aguilar (
> the second occurrence of field 400) it, assigns the same Aguilar and not
> Aguilar, José Roberto ...
>
> Edwin Hübner
> (5521)99647-1675
>
>
>
>
>
> Em qua, 31 de jul de 2019 às 11:29, Egbert De Smet <
> egbert.desmet em uantwerpen.be> escreveu:
>
> Edwin,
>
>
>
> according to your output under here, both occurrences are stored as
> occurrence 1 (^o1)... so that could explain your problem.
>
> Are you sure you are indexing with the line
>
>      400 5 mpu,if p(v400^a) then '/AU_/',(v400^a,| |v400^b,| |v400^c,|
> |v400^d,| - |v400^x|%|/),fi,
>
> ?
>
> Anyway it marks both occurrences as occ1.
>
>
>
> What is your full FST ?
>
>
>
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Edwin Hübner <edwin.hubner em gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:44 PM
> *To:* Egbert De Smet
> *Cc:* Soraya Ferraz Lima; isis-users
> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] Othority data base
>
>
>
>   Google Tradutor
>
> It seems to be correct. I used the command mx autor fst=@ and an example
> of fields 100 and 400, which has two occurrences, is as follows:
>
> 100  «AU_AGUILAR, JOSÚ ROBERTO,  1941- - ACERVO^m10^o1^c1^l2»
> 400  «AU_JOSÚ ROBERTO AGUILAR.^m10^o1^c1^l2»
> 400  «AU_AGUILAR.^m10^o1^c2^l1»
>
> Thanks,
>
> Edwin Hübner
> (5521)99647-1675
>
>
>
>
>
> Em qua, 31 de jul de 2019 às 10:13, Egbert De Smet <
> egbert.desmet em uantwerpen.be> escreveu:
>
> Edwin,
>
>
>
> then most probably the script already puts the PFT in a loop, creating a
> 'nested repeatable format' which results in the known 'semantic error' of
> wxis (CISIS).
>
> You could test your records in the terminal with mx to check whether the
> ID and OCC are stored correctly, e.g. if your database is named 'test' and
> you have a FST 'test.fst' you could use the following command :
>
> mx test fst=@
>
> without anything more it would present each record one by one just on the
> screen with first the listing of the field-contents, followed by the
> FST-output, which looks like e.g. :
>
> mfn=     1
>   1  "1"
>   1  "2"
>   1  "V1_1^m1^o1^c1^l1"
>   1  "V1_2^m1^o2^c1^l1"
>  11  "V11_1^m1^o1^c1^l1"
>  11  "V11_2^m1^o2^c1^l1"
> ..
>
> This is a single record with 2 occurrences of v1 with resp. values 1 and
> 2, but indexed with two different ID's (1 and 11 and accordingly different
> prefixes). The interesting part is ^m1^o2^c1^l1 which indicates in ^o the
> occurrence counter, in this case 2.
>
> So now please check if your author-names have different occurrence
> counters reflecting their position in v100 and v400. If they are correct
> then it might be a bug indeed of the '$$$' extract-as technique with the
> autoridades.pft, because then ABCD should be able to correctly extract the
> same occurrence of v100 as the one read (listed as) of v400.
>
>
>
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Edwin Hübner <edwin.hubner em gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:01 PM
> *To:* Egbert De Smet
> *Cc:* Soraya Ferraz Lima; isis-users
> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] Othority data base
>
>
>
> Dear Egbert,
>
> Yes, I had already tested this alternative  before, using in the
> autoridades.pft
>
> case 400: (v400*4/)'$$$'(v100/)  or
>
> case 400: (v400*4/)'$$$'v100
>
> but unfortunately presents the following error:
>
> WXIS|fatal error|unavoidable|fmt_gener/semantic_error|
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Edwin Hübner
> (5521)99647-1675
>
>
>
>
>
> Em qua, 31 de jul de 2019 às 09:19, Egbert De Smet <
> egbert.desmet em uantwerpen.be> escreveu:
>
> Edwin,
>
>
>
> OK, then your 'occurrence counter' must be correctly stored in your IF, so
> that doesn't explain the problem.
>
> Maybe you could try - as I don't have easily good testing material at hand
> here - to use the brackets to make the field treated as a repeatable field
> :
>
> case 400: (v400*4/)'$$$'(v100/)
>
> so as to force both the 'list as' and 'extract as' values to come as
> separate entries.
>
> I don't see any examples of such repeated groups in the series of
> 'autoridades.pft' in the ABCD-demo databases, but in the ABCDWIKI pages on
> this issue (
> http://abcdwiki.net/wiki/es/index.php?title=Control_de_terminolog%C3%ADa:_Listas_de_autoridades)
> I can see that it simply refers to 'the format to be used to transfer the
> field in the record' (el formato a utilizar para transferir el campo al
> registro (extraer como), so in principle a repeatable group should be
> allowed and ensures that there is an occurrence counter being followed as
> that seems to be the problem.
>
> I have no idea whether it would make a meaningful difference but it's
> worth a try. Otherwise Guilda Ascencio should be called to the rescue to
> check her implementation in the PHP-scripts (or the IsisScript).
>
>
>
> By the way, the FST examples of the WIKI-page use the method  '0' for the
> indexing but that should not create any difference in the resulting strings
> :
>
> 400  0 mpu,(|AU_|v400^*,|, |V400^b,'%'/)/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Edwin Hübner <edwin.hubner em gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 31, 2019 1:08 PM
> *To:* Soraya Ferraz Lima
> *Cc:* Egbert De Smet; isis-users
> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] Othority data base
>
>
>
> Hi Egbert,
>
> My fst for fields 100 and 400 is as follows:
>
> 100 5 mpu,if p(v100^a) then '/AU_/',v100^a,| |v100^b,| |v100^c,| |v100^d,|
> - |v100^x,'%',fi,
>
> 400 5 mpu,if p(v400^a) then '/AU_/',(v400^a,| |v400^b,| |v400^c,|
> |v400^d,| - |v400^x|%|/),fi,
>
>
>
> Remember that when I click on a name that is the first occurrence of field
> 400, it assigns the name of field 100 (as expected), but if the name that
> is clicked is another occurrence, it assigns field 400 instead of 100
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Edwin Hübner
> (5521)99647-1675
>
>
>
>
>
> Em qua, 31 de jul de 2019 às 07:12, Soraya Ferraz Lima <
> soyferrazlima em gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> Hi Edwin!
>
>
>
> Here we use like this
>
>
>
> Case 400: v400^a, '$$$', v700
>
>
>
> Since the first column is for the field list and after the $$$ is how it
> will be stored.
>
>
>
> Fst 400 0 |AU_|v400^a
>
>
>
> At least that is the way I understand
>
> Em terça-feira, 30 de julho de 2019, Edwin Hübner <edwin.hubner em gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> Thank you Egbert for your interest in helping. Sorry I didn't explain it
> more clearly because it was clear to me.
>   Please see further explanation in the attached document.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edwin Hübner
> (5521)99647-1675
>
>
>
>
>
> Em ter, 30 de jul de 2019 às 03:45, Egbert De Smet <
> egbert.desmet em uantwerpen.be> escreveu:
>
> Edwin,
>
>
>
> sorry but your problem and request is not that clear to me. Probably that
> is also why no reply came...
>
> Can you please explain the exact situation : are you clicking on an
> occurrence in a PFT (a hyperlink ?), in a picklist of a worksheet or what
> exactly do you want to get ?
>
> But before everything : please note that v100 * 4 should actually be
> v100*4 (no spaces in between). Perhaps that causes problems.
>
>
>
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
>
>
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>
> *From:* isis-users <isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be em iccisis.org>
> on behalf of Edwin Hübner <edwin.hubner em gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2019 1:19 PM
> *To:* isis-users
> *Subject:* [Isis-users] Othority data base
>
>
>
> Dear,
>
> I have asked for this problem before, but didn't receive help. So I'm
> asking again:
>
>
> I have a MARC bibliographic database and a authority database for the
> author names normalization. The problem is: when field 400 - See tracing,
> for example, has more than one occurrence and is clicked on a name other
> than the first occurrence, ABCD does not assign the name of field 100, as
> expected, but the name of field 400 it self. I wonder if anyone has had
> this problem and how did solve it?
>
>
> My autoridades.pft is as follows:
> select e3
> case 100: v100 * 4 '$$$' v100
> case 110: v110 * 4 '$$$' v110
> case 111: v111 * 4 '$$$' v111
> case 400: v400 * 4 '$$$' v100
> case 410: v410 * 4 '$$$' v110
> case 411: v411 * 4 '$$$' v111
> endsel
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Edwin Hübner
> (5521)99647-1675
>
>
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