Hey, hey, hey!<div><br></div><div>Let's set the record straight: I've got NOTHING against the CDS training database, in fact I always recommend my trainees to browse it and use it in conjunction with the ISIS manuals, as all examples in the books are taken from that database.</div>
<div>My only objection (and why I screamed in Rio) is that I'm tired of always seeing as example the same first record with the techniques for the measurement of transpiration in individual plants...</div><div><br></div>
<div>How many really realize that the CDS database contains a lot of other subjects besides agronomy/plant biology, and that there are records in Spanish, Portuguese and French?</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div><br>
</div><div>wenke</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Epa! Epa! Epa!</div><div>No tengo NADA en contra de la base CDS, de hecho siempre le recomiendo a mis alumnos que la usen en conjunto con el estudio de los manuales, ya que todos los ejemplos de los libros se sacaron de la base CDS.</div>
<div>Mi única objeción (y de allí mi grito en Rio) es que estoy hasta aquí con ver que siempre se muestra ese primer registro con las técnicas para medir la transpiración de las plantas, en inglés.</div><div><br></div><div>
¿Cuántos usuarios realmente saben que la base CDS contiene todo tipo de materias (educación, economía, etc, etc) además de agronomía/biología vegetal y que hay registros en español, portugués y francés?</div><div><br></div>
<div>Saludos</div><div><br></div><div>wenke</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/9/4 spinaker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spinaker@adinet.com.uy" target="_blank">spinaker@adinet.com.uy</a>></span><br>
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<div>Dear everybody<br>
<br>
María Mercedes' question is very important to all users of Isis
family, so I'll give one of the many solutions in my basic English
(or something like this)<br>
<br>
Using the <...> to mark terms to be indexed with technique
2, is really a problem today because it conflicts with html/xml
tags<br>
<br>
The reason for using this technique goes back to the distant past
of computers (about 30 years), when hard drives were very
expensive and each byte you saved in a record was significant. A
10MB hard disk in the early 80s could cost a week's wages,<br>
<br>
But let us turn to the problem<br>
<br>
My personal view (others may say different) is that it is
convenient to convert all fields using <...> for indexing,
to repeatable fields. There are two or three ways to do this using
CISIS programs ... surely you were already suspecting <span><span> ;-) </span></span><br>
<br>
Let's take the CDS demo database that comes with the Winisis to
explain the trick<br>
(I hear a scream of Wenke Adam from the other side of the Andes
... but yes, CDS demo base is very convenient<br>
<br>
<u>Method I</u><br>
<br>
CDS dbase uses field 69 with keywords enclosed with <...><br>
<br>
<big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69 Paper on:
<plant physiology> <moisture> <temperature>
<wind> <measurement and instruments>
<ecosystems><br>
</font></big><br>
We will replace the chains: <b>><</b> and <b>>
< </b> by the symbol <b>%</b><br>
and we will also remove from the records the begining text: <b>Paper
on:</b><br>
for this we need to build a gizmo file<br>
a simple way to make a gizmo file is preparing a simple text file
using notepad and then create the gizmo using mx<br>
<br>
Let's create xxx.txt with notepad and write the following lines<br>
<blockquote><big><b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">>
<|%</font></b></big><br>
<big><b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">> <|%</font></b></big><br>
<big><b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">> |</font></b></big><br>
<big><b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><|</font></b></big><br>
<big><b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Paper on: |</font></b></big><br>
</blockquote>
give <enter> in the last line, and save it<br>
<br>
Note that lines 3 to 5 do not have anything to the right of the
symbol <big><b> |</b></big><br>
<br>
now from the command line of the operating system do the following<br>
<b><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><br>
C:\> mx seq=xxx.txt create=xxx now -all<br>
C:\> mx cds gizmo=xxx,69 create=cds1 now -all tell=10</font></big></b><br>
<br>
Now let's take a look to the field v69, and see the changes<br>
<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> </font><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><b>69 plant
physiology%moisture%temperature%wind%measurement and
instruments%ecosystems</b></font><b><br>
</b></big><br>
Almost there, missing a step<br>
<br>
<b><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">c:\> mxcp
cds1 create=cds2 repeat=%,69 clean</font></big></b><br>
<br>
look now the record<br>
<blockquote><b><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«plant physiology»</font></big></b><br>
<b><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«moisture»</font></big></b><br>
<b><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«temperature»</font></big></b><br>
<b><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69 «wind»</font></big></b><br>
<b><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«measurement and instruments»</font></big></b><br>
<b><big><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«ecosystems»</font></big></b><br>
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<br>
There are other more sophisticated ways to do the same, but when
you master this procedure ask for the rest<br>
It is highly recommended that you learn to use the tools included
in CISIS package, <br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Ernesto Spinak<br>
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El 04/09/2012 17:16, María Mercedes MacLean escribió:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial">Hola a todos, tengo una base de
8600 MFN, que está mal cargada.... de hecho no puedo
trabajarla en el GenisisWeb ya que se corta el diccionario, </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">La migre a ABCD para ver si podia
verla mas o menos mejor con el iAH</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">El tema es que los descriptores
estan cargados asi:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><Semiótica>
<Economía> <Política> <Historia>
<Sociología> <cultura> <Educación>
<Literatura><Psicología> <Religiosidad>
<Filosofía> <Teología Práctica> <Historia de
las Iglesias> <Biblia> <Contexto Bíblico>
<Teología sistemática></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Entonces, si bien el diccionario
del ABCD me muestra una que otra palabra suelta, lo que mas
hay son numeros 1 y todos los terminos juntos ... hasta que
no hay mas espacios y se corta.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">¿Alguien le ve solucion?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Y la segunda duda</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">¿Como hago en ABCD un formateo
para que me muestre ese campo 76 completo? </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Aunque diga if p(v76) then
'<i>Descriptores:</i> ',</font><font face="Arial"> (v76+|; |/) fi,<br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">no muestra nada porque lo toma
como un campo no repetible....</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">En fin, perdon Alguna ayuda?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Saludos</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">-----------------------------</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Hello to all, I have a base of
8600 MFN that is not well loaded.... in fact I cannot work her
since in the GenisisWeb intersects the dictionary, <br>
The migre to ABCD to see if could see it better with the iAH
<br>
The topic is that the describers are loaded this way:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">
<div><font face="Arial"><Semiótica>
<Economía> <Política> <Historia>
<Sociología> <cultura> <Educación>
<Literatura><Psicología> <Religiosidad>
<Filosofía> <Teología Práctica> <Historia
de las Iglesias> <Biblia> <Contexto
Bíblico> <Teología sistemática></font></div>
<div> </div>
<div>Then, although the dictionary of the ABCD shows me one
that another loose word, that that but there is they are
together numbers 1 and all the terms... until there is not
but spaces and intersects. <br>
Does somebody see him solution? <br>
And the second doubt <br>
As I make in ABCD a formateo so that it shows me that field
76 complete? <br>
Although says </div>
<div>if p(v76) then '<i>Descriptores:</i> ',<font face="Arial"> (v76+|; |/) fi,<br>
</font> <br>
it doesn't show anything because takes it as a field non
repetible.... <br>
The end... sorry, help? <br>
Greetings</div>
</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Maria Mercedes MacLean<br>
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