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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Primero, para Wenke... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Viste linda?, el ogro no se olvidó de tu comentario
en Rio de Janeiro en el 2008, le quedo grabado, je je.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Y a todos, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Wenke Adams, nuestra colega de Chile y muchas otras
partes del mundo, en el Congreso de Río (2008) comento que ABCD, que
se presentaba en sociedad, traía los 154 registos originales, no solo del
Winisis, del anciano MICROISIS, je je.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Y a nuestro estimado Ernesto, ogro al fin, le quedo
entre ceja y ceja... -je je- el comentario.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ernesto</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>ya me di cuenta lo que quieres hacer, GENIAL,
mañana me pongo con eso, si lo logro, solucioné el temita... ya que esa base,
que es de una universidad, estaria de 10 con el iAH. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Gracias Ernesto</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>de verdad, ogro, pero genio... o Genio, pero
ogro... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>No se... cual va... je je</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Saludos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>M.M.MacLean</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>-----</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4719">First,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4720">for</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4721">Wenke</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4722">...</SPAN><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4829"><SPAN
class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4723">You see</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4724">, dear?</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4725">,</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4726">The ogre</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4727">did not forget</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4728">your comment</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4729">in</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4730">Rio de</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4731">Janeiro</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4732">in 2008</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4733">,</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4734">stuck with</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4735">him</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4736">, je
je</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4737">.</SPAN><BR
closure_uid_d21ckx="4830"><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4831"><SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4738">And to all</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4739">,</SPAN><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4832"><SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4740">Wenke</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4741">Adams</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4742">,</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4743">our</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4744">colleague from</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4745">Chile</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4746">and many other parts</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4747">of the world</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4748">,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4749">in</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4750">the Rio Congress</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4751">(2008)</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4752">commented that</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4753">ABCD</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4754">,</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4755">as presented in</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4756">society</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4757">,</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4758">showing</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4759">the 154</SPAN> MFN<SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4760"> the</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4761">original</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4762">,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4763">not
only</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4764">the</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4765">Winisis</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4766">,
old</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4767">MICROISIS</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4768">, je je</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4769">.</SPAN><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4833"><SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4770">And</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4771">to our dear</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4772">Ernesto</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4773">finally</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4774">ogre</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4775">,</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4776">that comment</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4777">was left</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4778">between the eyes</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4779">...</SPAN> <SPAN class="hps atn"
closure_uid_d21ckx="4780">-</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4781">je</SPAN><SPAN
class=atn closure_uid_d21ckx="4782">-</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4783">je</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4784">.</SPAN><BR
closure_uid_d21ckx="4834"><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4835"><SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4785">Ernesto</SPAN><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4836"><SPAN
class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4786">and</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4787">I realized</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4788">what I</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4789">want to do</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4790">,
great,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4791">tomorrow</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4792">I start</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4793">with that,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4794">if I succeed</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4795">, I
solved</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4796">the issue</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4797">...</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4798">since</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4799">this basis</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4800">,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4801">it
is</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4802">a university</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4803">,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4804">would be</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4805">excellent</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4806">at IAH</SPAN><SPAN
closure_uid_d21ckx="4807">.</SPAN><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4837"><SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4808">Thanks,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4809">Ernesto</SPAN><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4838"><SPAN
class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4810">really,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4811">ogre</SPAN><SPAN closure_uid_d21ckx="4812">,</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4813">but</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4814">genius</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4815">...</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4816">or</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4817">genius, but</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4818">ogre</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4819">...</SPAN><BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4839"><SPAN
class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4820">No</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4821">...</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4822">which</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4823">is</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4824">...</SPAN> je je<BR closure_uid_d21ckx="4840"><SPAN
class=hps closure_uid_d21ckx="4826">Regards</SPAN><BR
closure_uid_d21ckx="4841"><SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_d21ckx="4827">M.M.MacLean</SPAN></DIV>
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<A title=spinaker@adinet.com.uy
href="mailto:spinaker@adinet.com.uy">spinaker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=isis-users@iccisis.org
href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org">isis-users@iccisis.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 04, 2012 7:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Isis-users] ABCD - fields
marked with < ></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>Dear everybody<BR><BR>María Mercedes' question is
very important to all users of Isis family, so I'll give one of the many
solutions in my basic English (or something like this)<BR><BR>Using the
<...> to mark terms to be indexed with technique 2, is really a problem
today because it conflicts with html/xml tags<BR><BR>The reason for
using this technique goes back to the distant past of computers (about 30
years), when hard drives were very expensive and each byte you saved in a
record was significant. A 10MB hard disk in the early 80s could cost a week's
wages,<BR><BR>But let us turn to the problem<BR><BR>My personal view (others
may say different) is that it is convenient to convert all fields using
<...> for indexing, to repeatable fields. There are two or three ways to
do this using CISIS programs ... surely you were already suspecting <SPAN
class=moz-smiley-s3><SPAN>;-) </SPAN></SPAN><BR><BR>Let's take the CDS demo
database that comes with the Winisis to explain the trick<BR>(I hear a scream
of Wenke Adam from the other side of the Andes ... but yes, CDS demo base is
very convenient<BR><BR><U>Method I</U><BR><BR>CDS dbase uses field 69 with
keywords enclosed with <...><BR><BR> <BIG><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69 Paper on: <plant physiology>
<moisture> <temperature> <wind> <measurement and
instruments> <ecosystems><BR></FONT></BIG><BR>We will replace the
chains: <B>><</B> and <B>>
< </B> by the symbol <B>%</B><BR>and we will also remove
from the records the begining text: <B>Paper on:</B><BR>for this we need to
build a gizmo file<BR>a simple way to make a gizmo file is preparing a simple
text file using notepad and then create the gizmo using mx<BR><BR>Let's create
xxx.txt with notepad and write the following lines<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BIG><B><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">>
<|%</FONT></B></BIG><BR><BIG><B><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">>
<|%</FONT></B></BIG><BR><BIG><B><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">>
|</FONT></B></BIG><BR><BIG><B><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><|</FONT></B></BIG><BR><BIG><B><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Paper on:
|</FONT></B></BIG><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>give <enter> in the last line, and
save it<BR><BR>Note that lines 3 to 5 do not have anything to the right of the
symbol <BIG><B> |</B></BIG><BR><BR>now from the command line of the
operating system do the following<BR><B><BIG><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><BR>C:\> mx seq=xxx.txt create=xxx
now -all<BR>C:\> mx cds gizmo=xxx,69 create=cds1 now -all
tell=10</FONT></BIG></B><BR><BR>Now let's take a look to the field v69, and
see the changes<BR><BR><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> </FONT><BIG><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><B>69 plant
physiology%moisture%temperature%wind%measurement and
instruments%ecosystems</B></FONT><B><BR></B></BIG><BR>Almost there, missing a
step<BR><BR><B><BIG><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">c:\> mxcp
cds1 create=cds2 repeat=%,69 clean</FONT></BIG></B><BR><BR>look now the
record<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B><BIG><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«plant physiology»</FONT></BIG></B><BR><B><BIG><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«moisture»</FONT></BIG></B><BR><B><BIG><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«temperature»</FONT></BIG></B><BR><B><BIG><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«wind»</FONT></BIG></B><BR><B><BIG><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69 «measurement and
instruments»</FONT></BIG></B><BR><B><BIG><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">69
«ecosystems»</FONT></BIG></B><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>There are other more
sophisticated ways to do the same, but when you master this procedure ask for
the rest<BR>It is highly recommended that you learn to use the tools included
in CISIS package, <BR><BR>Regards<BR>Ernesto Spinak<BR>
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<BR><BR>El 04/09/2012 17:16, María Mercedes MacLean escribió:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hola a todos, tengo una base de 8600 MFN, que
está mal cargada.... de hecho no puedo trabajarla en el GenisisWeb ya que se
corta el diccionario, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>La migre a ABCD para ver si podia verla mas o
menos mejor con el iAH</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>El tema es que los descriptores estan cargados
asi:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><Semiótica> <Economía>
<Política> <Historia> <Sociología> <cultura>
<Educación> <Literatura><Psicología> <Religiosidad>
<Filosofía> <Teología Práctica> <Historia de las Iglesias>
<Biblia> <Contexto Bíblico> <Teología
sistemática></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Entonces, si bien el diccionario del ABCD me
muestra una que otra palabra suelta, lo que mas hay son numeros 1 y todos
los terminos juntos ... hasta que no hay mas espacios y se
corta.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>¿Alguien le ve solucion?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Y la segunda duda</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>¿Como hago en ABCD un formateo para que me
muestre ese campo 76 completo? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Aunque diga if p(v76) then
'<i>Descriptores:</i> ',</FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial> (v76+|; |/) fi,<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>no muestra nada porque lo toma como un campo no
repetible....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>En fin, perdon Alguna ayuda?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Saludos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>-----------------------------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hello to all, I have a base of 8600 MFN that is
not well loaded.... in fact I cannot work her since in the GenisisWeb
intersects the dictionary, <BR>The migre to ABCD to see if could
see it better with the iAH <BR>The topic is that the describers are
loaded this way:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><Semiótica> <Economía>
<Política> <Historia> <Sociología> <cultura>
<Educación> <Literatura><Psicología> <Religiosidad>
<Filosofía> <Teología Práctica> <Historia de las Iglesias>
<Biblia> <Contexto Bíblico> <Teología
sistemática></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Then, although the dictionary of the ABCD shows me one that another
loose word, that that but there is they are together numbers 1 and all the
terms... until there is not but spaces and intersects. <BR>Does
somebody see him solution? <BR>And the second doubt <BR>As I
make in ABCD a formateo so that it shows me that field 76
complete? <BR>Although says </DIV>
<DIV>if p(v76) then '<i>Descriptores:</i> ',<FONT size=2
face=Arial> (v76+|; |/) fi,<BR></FONT> <BR>it doesn't show
anything because takes it as a field non repetible.... <BR>The end...
sorry, help? <BR>Greetings</DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Maria Mercedes MacLean<BR><A
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