Dear Ernesto,<br><span class="hps">Thank you for the</span> <span class="hps">very useful information</span> <span class="hps">for who is working with</span> <span class="hps">MARC</span> <span class="hps">in</span> <span class="hps">ABCD</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">One more question</span><span>:</span> <span class="hps">how to handle</span> <span class="hps">the</span> subfiled <span class="hps">code</span>s<span class="hps"></span><span>?</span> <span class="hps">I</span> <span class="hps">think</span> <span class="hps">we need</span> <span class="hps">a gizmo</span> <span class="hps">to convert</span> <span class="hps">them, but</span> <span class="hps">how should</span> <span class="hps">this</span> <span class="hps">gismo be created</span><span>, or is it available?</span><br>
Thanks,<br>Edwin<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/17 spinaker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spinaker@adinet.com.uy" target="_blank">spinaker@adinet.com.uy</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Edwin<br>
<br>
Let me ellaborate a little more about these two weird parameters<br>
<br>
<b>isotag1</b>=<number> we use by convention 3000, but you
could use 1000, or 9000, or any free base number<br>
means that a few meaningful bytes in the leader will be transfered
as conventional isis fields<br>
ex. Leader byte 05 will be v3005<br>
Leader byte 18 will be v3018<br>
<br>
<b>outisotag1</b>=<number> we use by convention 3000<br>
means that you have in your records a set of field begining with
this base number that will be placed into the leader <br>
ex. field v3005 will be exported as Ldr/05<br>
field v3018 will be exported as Ldr/18<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Ernesto Spinak<br>
<br>
<br>
El 17/03/2013 16:02, spinaker escribió:<br>
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<div>Edwin<br>
<br>
You can do with MX both ways, exportIimport from CDS/ISIS to
MARC provided you have in place the fields that have to be
converted into the leader<br>
<br>
MARC --> ISIS<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><b><big>mx <font color="#990000">iso=marc=source.mrc</font> <font color="#3333ff"> isotag1=3000 <font color="#000000">create=dbisis</font>
...</font></big></b></font><br>
<br>
and you can do the reverse way (you have your leader bytes as
30xx fields)<br>
<br>
ISIS --> MARC<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><b><big>mx <font color="#990000">dbisis</font> iso=marc=export.mrc <font color="#3333ff"> <u>out</u>isotag1=3000</font></big></b></font>
...<br>
<br>
Note that the use in IsisMarc of the fileds v30xx for those
leader bytes was not by chance, they were purposely defined<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Ernesto <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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El 17/03/2013 14:17, Edwin Hübner escribió:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br>
<span>Of course</span> <span>IsisMarc</span>
<span>is a good tool</span> <span>to
import and export</span> <span>MARC</span> <span>ISO</span><span>-2709 </span><span>files</span> <span></span><span>,</span>
<span>but I</span> <span>wonder if</span>
<span>mx</span> <span>also</span> <span>is able to export</span> <span>CDS</span><span>/</span><span>ISIS</span> <span>records</span> <span>to</span> <span>MARC</span> <span>ISO</span><span>-2709
file</span><span>,</span> <span>ie,</span> <span>the reverse process</span> <span>suggested
by</span> <span>Ernesto</span><span>.</span><br>
Regards,<br>
Edwin<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/13 Piet De Keyser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:piet.dekeyser@khleuven.be" target="_blank">piet.dekeyser@khleuven.be</a>></span><br>
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<div style="direction:ltr;font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">Renate,
<div><br>
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<div>Of course Ernesto's answer is, as always, correct -
as he is the expert on CISIS. For non techis an easy
way to convert such a MARC file is simply to import it
into ISISMARC.</div>
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<div>Piet de Keyser</div>
<div>Leuven University College<br>
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<b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 13 maart 2013 22:40<br>
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<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Isis-users] MARC file
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<div>Renate<br>
<br>
There are three features to note when
importing/exporting marc files with Cisis
or Winisis, etc using ISO 2709 standard<br>
<ol>
<li>length of the line, wich in Isis is
80 chars (default) but you can modify
it using 0 or marc
<ul>
<li>including the end of line
control, Isis uses two chars
(LF+CR) by default or only one
char in .mrc files </li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>subfield deliminter, which is <b> ^ </b>
in Isis, but in marc it is a non
representable ascii char (below 32)
\asc 29 in .mrc </li>
<li>leader bytes transfered in the first
20 bytes of the ISO file, and is not
accesible neither in Winisis or Pft </li>
</ol>
<p>Items 2 and 3 are implemented in
Winisis, but item 3 is a feature only of
CISIS<br>
</p>
<p>Therefore when you want to get the
three items you have to do it using MX
command, <br>
I'd recommed to use 1660 version or MX,
because it gets all the leader bytes<br>
</p>
<p>Let's say you want to import a .mrc
file, from Library of Congress or
Gutenberg project, <br>
<br>
<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"><b><big>mx <font color="#990000">iso=marc=source.mrc</font> <font color="#3333ff"> isotag1=3000</font>
<font color="#009900">gizmo=gizdelim</font>
create=myisisdb now -all tell=100</big></b></font><br>
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<ol>
<li><b><big><font color="#990000"><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace">iso=marc=source.mrc</font>
</font></big></b><big><font color="#990000"><font color="#003333">is the source
data, usually standard marc
files comes with extension .mrc</font></font></big>
</li>
<li><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"><b><big><font color="#3333ff">isotag1=3000</font></big></b></font><big><font color="#3333ff"><font color="#000000"> you need
this parameter so you move
leader bytes into conventional
field v30xx</font></font></big>
</li>
<li><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"><b><big><font color="#009900">gizmo=gizdelim</font></big></b></font>
this is a gizmo to convert the
delimiter \asc32 into our loved ^ as
delimiter </li>
</ol>
If you don't have this gizmo you can
create it with the following instruction<br>
<br>
<big><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace">mx null count=1
"proc='a1/1F/a11/hex/a2/^/'"
create=gizdelim</font></big><br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Ernesto Spinak<br>
<br>
<br>
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El 13/03/2013 13:29, Renate Morgenstern
escribió:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br>
<br>
I want to import the catalogue of Project
Gutenberg. It is available as a MARC file.
I used the following mx command to convert
is to isis.<br>
mx iso=marc=gutenberg.iso create=dbn now
-all<br>
<br>
It seems to work ok, but when looking at
the data, I notice that the ^ is not
converted to isis format. It just shows<br>
<br>
245 14 aTitle h[electronic resource]
bStatement of responsibility<br>
<br>
I see there are options for the import of
the MARC file, but I do not know how to
use them to get the ^ before the subfield.<br>
<br>
Please help me with the correct format.<br>
Thanks<br>
Renate<br>
<br>
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