Dear Ernesto,<br><span class="hps">Thank you for the</span> <span class="hps">very useful information</span> <span class="hps">for who is working with</span> <span class="hps">MARC</span> <span class="hps">in</span> <span class="hps">ABCD</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">One more question</span><span>:</span> <span class="hps">how to handle</span> <span class="hps">the</span> subfiled <span class="hps">code</span>s<span class="hps"></span><span>?</span> <span class="hps">I</span> <span class="hps">think</span> <span class="hps">we need</span> <span class="hps">a gizmo</span> <span class="hps">to convert</span> <span class="hps">them, but</span> <span class="hps">how should</span> <span class="hps">this</span> <span class="hps">gismo be created</span><span>, or is it available?</span><br>
Thanks,<br>Edwin<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/17 spinaker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spinaker@adinet.com.uy" target="_blank">spinaker@adinet.com.uy</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    <div>Edwin<br>
      <br>
      Let me ellaborate a little more about these two weird parameters<br>
      <br>
      <b>isotag1</b>=<number>   we use by convention 3000, but you
      could use 1000, or 9000, or any free base number<br>
      means that a few meaningful bytes in the leader will be transfered
      as conventional isis fields<br>
         ex.  Leader byte 05  will be v3005<br>
                Leader byte 18  will be v3018<br>
      <br>
      <b>outisotag1</b>=<number>  we use by convention 3000<br>
      means that you have in your records a set of field begining with
      this base number that will be placed into the leader <br>
       ex.   field v3005 will be exported as Ldr/05<br>
               field v3018  will be exported as Ldr/18<br>
      <br>
      Regards<br>
      Ernesto Spinak<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      El 17/03/2013 16:02, spinaker escribió:<br>
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      <div>Edwin<br>
        <br>
        You can do with MX both ways,  exportIimport from CDS/ISIS to
        MARC provided you have in place the fields that have to be
        converted into the leader<br>
        <br>
        MARC --> ISIS<br>
        <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><b><big>mx <font color="#990000">iso=marc=source.mrc</font> <font color="#3333ff"> isotag1=3000 <font color="#000000">create=dbisis</font>
                ...</font></big></b></font><br>
        <br>
        and you can do the reverse way (you have your leader bytes as
        30xx fields)<br>
        <br>
        ISIS --> MARC<br>
        <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><b><big>mx <font color="#990000">dbisis</font>   iso=marc=export.mrc <font color="#3333ff"> <u>out</u>isotag1=3000</font></big></b></font>
        ...<br>
        <br>
        Note that the use in IsisMarc of the fileds v30xx  for those
        leader bytes  was not by chance, they were purposely defined<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Regards<br>
        Ernesto <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        El 17/03/2013 14:17, Edwin Hübner escribió:<br>
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      <blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br>
        <span>Of course</span> <span>IsisMarc</span>
        <span>is a good tool</span> <span>to
          import and export</span> <span>MARC</span> <span>ISO</span><span>-2709 </span><span>files</span> <span></span><span>,</span>
        <span>but I</span> <span>wonder if</span>
        <span>mx</span> <span>also</span> <span>is able to export</span> <span>CDS</span><span>/</span><span>ISIS</span> <span>records</span> <span>to</span> <span>MARC</span> <span>ISO</span><span>-2709

          file</span><span>,</span> <span>ie,</span> <span>the reverse process</span> <span>suggested

          by</span> <span>Ernesto</span><span>.</span><br>
        Regards,<br>
        Edwin<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/13 Piet De Keyser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:piet.dekeyser@khleuven.be" target="_blank">piet.dekeyser@khleuven.be</a>></span><br>
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              <div style="direction:ltr;font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">Renate,

                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Of course Ernesto's answer is, as always, correct -
                  as he is the expert on CISIS. For non techis an easy
                  way to convert such a MARC file is simply to import it
                  into ISISMARC.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Piet de Keyser</div>
                <div>Leuven University College<br>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div><br>
                    <div style="font-size:16px;font-family:Times New Roman">
                      <hr>
                      <div style="direction:ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma"><b>Van:</b> <a href="mailto:isis-users-bounces@iccisis.org" target="_blank">isis-users-bounces@iccisis.org</a>
                          [<a href="mailto:isis-users-bounces@iccisis.org" target="_blank">isis-users-bounces@iccisis.org</a>]
                          namens spinaker [<a href="mailto:spinaker@adinet.com.uy" target="_blank">spinaker@adinet.com.uy</a>]<br>
                          <b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 13 maart 2013 22:40<br>
                          <b>Aan:</b> <a href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org" target="_blank">isis-users@iccisis.org</a><br>
                          <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Isis-users] MARC file
                          import<br>
                        </font><br>
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                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div>Renate<br>
                              <br>
                              There are three features to note when
                              importing/exporting marc files with Cisis
                              or Winisis, etc using ISO 2709 standard<br>
                              <ol>
                                <li>length of the line, wich in Isis is
                                  80 chars (default) but you can modify
                                  it using 0 or marc
                                  <ul>
                                    <li>including the end of line
                                      control, Isis uses two chars
                                      (LF+CR) by default or only one
                                      char in .mrc files </li>
                                  </ul>
                                </li>
                                <li>subfield deliminter, which is <b> ^ </b>
                                  in Isis, but in marc it is a non
                                  representable ascii char (below 32) 
                                  \asc 29 in .mrc </li>
                                <li>leader bytes transfered in the first
                                  20 bytes of the ISO file, and is not
                                  accesible neither in Winisis or Pft </li>
                              </ol>
                              <p>Items 2 and 3 are implemented in
                                Winisis, but item 3 is a feature only of
                                CISIS<br>
                              </p>
                              <p>Therefore when you want to get the
                                three items you have to do it using MX
                                command, <br>
                                I'd recommed to use 1660 version or MX,
                                because it gets all the leader bytes<br>
                              </p>
                              <p>Let's say you want to import a .mrc
                                file, from Library of Congress or
                                Gutenberg project, <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <font face="Courier New, Courier,
                                  monospace"><b><big>mx <font color="#990000">iso=marc=source.mrc</font> <font color="#3333ff"> isotag1=3000</font> 
                                      <font color="#009900">gizmo=gizdelim</font> 
                                      create=myisisdb  now -all tell=100</big></b></font><br>
                              </p>
                              <ol>
                                <li><b><big><font color="#990000"><font face="Courier New, Courier,
                                          monospace">iso=marc=source.mrc</font>  

                                      </font></big></b><big><font color="#990000"><font color="#003333">is the source
                                        data, usually standard marc
                                        files comes with extension .mrc</font></font></big>
                                </li>
                                <li><font face="Courier New, Courier,
                                    monospace"><b><big><font color="#3333ff">isotag1=3000</font></big></b></font><big><font color="#3333ff"><font color="#000000">       you need
                                        this parameter so you move
                                        leader bytes into conventional
                                        field v30xx</font></font></big>
                                </li>
                                <li><font face="Courier New, Courier,
                                    monospace"><b><big><font color="#009900">gizmo=gizdelim</font></big></b></font>   

                                  this is a gizmo to convert the
                                  delimiter \asc32 into our loved ^ as
                                  delimiter </li>
                              </ol>
                              If you don't have this gizmo  you can
                              create it with the following instruction<br>
                              <br>
                              <big><font face="Courier New, Courier,
                                  monospace">mx null count=1
                                  "proc='a1/1F/a11/hex/a2/^/'"
                                  create=gizdelim</font></big><br>
                              <br>
                              Regards<br>
                              Ernesto Spinak<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              El 13/03/2013 13:29, Renate Morgenstern
                              escribió:<br>
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                            <blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br>
                              <br>
                              I want to import the catalogue of Project
                              Gutenberg. It is available as a MARC file.
                              I used the following mx command to convert
                              is to isis.<br>
                              mx iso=marc=gutenberg.iso create=dbn now
                              -all<br>
                              <br>
                              It seems to work ok, but when looking at
                              the data, I notice that the ^ is not
                              converted to isis format. It just shows<br>
                              <br>
                              245  14    aTitle  h[electronic resource] 
                              bStatement of responsibility<br>
                              <br>
                              I see there are options for the import of
                              the MARC file, but I do not know how to
                              use them to get the ^ before the subfield.<br>
                              <br>
                              Please help me with the correct format.<br>
                              Thanks<br>
                              Renate<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
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                                      Cell: <a href="tel:%2B264%2081%202910284" value="+264812910284" target="_blank">+264 81 2910284</a><br>
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