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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Jean-Claude</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>many thanks -again- for your reply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>As for repeatable fields, you are certainly right:
but the fact is that, for some reason, we and many other users here used to
insert the % mark every time they needed to repeat the same field, or the same
subfield delimiter, or a previous subfield delimiter (or a sequence of previous
subfield delimiters) in a specific field. I think it was on the basis of a
"hint" on pag. 92 of the old "Mini-micro CDS/ISIS Reference manual Version
2.3" by Giampaolo Del Bigio - (1989).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Anyway, I tried to change the data removing the %
mark in a limited number of records in the Title field, and the import seems now
to work correctly. I'll make some test again to be sure that a sort of global
change deleting all the % marks in the database will <SPAN id=result_box lang=en
class=short_text closure_uid_649390393="20" a="undefined" b="4"><SPAN class=hps
closure_uid_649390393="5"><FONT size=3><FONT size=2>definitively</FONT>
</FONT></SPAN></SPAN>work, also if a 'group of subfields' are being
repeated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'm still having problems with the REF
function. :-( </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tag V27 (indexed as "Z=...") is a repeatable field
- I need to display all the records linked to the main one in a hierarchical
relationship "one to many" (Tag V28 is the equivalent one in the "second-level"
description records). The "old" syntax "(REF(L(|Z=|V27),...etc..." worked well
both in ISIS-DOS and Winisis. I tried to change the format as you explained
REF(L('Z=V27')...) (?), also with some minor changes, but I get no data or at
most only the first record linked to the main one, and not all the others.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I attach to this mail the "original" PRI.FST format
used in TECA database (imported in JISIS with minor changes) just to explain
what I am talking about.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks again for your valuable and kind
help</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Kind regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Giuzzo</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jc.dauphin@gmail.com href="mailto:jc.dauphin@gmail.com">Jean-Claude
Dauphin</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=g.barbaro@mclink.net
href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net">Giuzzo Barbaro</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=isis-users@iccisis.org
href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org">isis-users@iccisis.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Isis-users] JISIS -
Problems Importing ISO Files - and PFT Formats</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial>Hi Giuzzo,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial>> a) Repeatable subfields. when you use the % symbol to repeat
only some subfields of a certain field (and not the whole field), the Import
wizard cuts all the part of the field before the % symbol . For example: TAG 1
(Title) has </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial>> many</FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">subfields delimiters: abcdefghi.
If a record is "^aTitle^efirst description%esecond description" it cuts the
Title and the first description. If you repeat the whole field beginning from
the first subfield the import is OK. (The old CDS-</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">> ISIS Export/Import option
worked well in both cases.)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">I am not sure but the use of %
symbol for repeatable subfields is not a valid MARC ISO2709 symbol. Repeatable
subfields are simply repeated as </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">"^aTitle^efirst
description^esecond description". This is probably an ISIS particular format
for repeatable fields. When you export the data in ISO2709 format, it is
strange to get the % separator character followed by a subfield letter
. </SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial>> b) The ISIS pft formats were not upper/lower case sensitive as
to the subfield delimiter (V1^a or V1^A). It seems that the same formats
imported in JISIS are case sensitive (?). So I need to change all the subfield
delimiters to one of the > two formats (upper/lower). Is it correct? - The
problem is that someone used the upper case, someone the lower(!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial>Well, it's true subfield delimiters are case sensitive in the PFTs
but it should correspond to what you have in your data, i.e. if you have
^aTitle in your data, it should be ^a. It's only a global change in your
PFTs.</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial>> c) How can I manage the REF function used in ISIS pft formats
in JISIS? TECA.pft has a REF(LV27) call, in order to display the contents of
the single parts of a many-volume book. Is it possible to translate it somehow
in JISIS pft </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial>> formats?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT
face=Arial>Have a look to page 57 and 62 of the J-ISIS Reference Manual. It
should be something like REF(L(V27),<format>)</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hope this will help,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Jean-Claude Dauphin</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net"
target=_blank>g.barbaro@mclink.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hi to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm trying to import into JISIS a 6.000
record ISIS-WinISIS database called TECA (it is a database used in many
Italian libraries) and I get the following problems:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>a) Repeatable subfields. when you use the % symbol to
repeat only some subfields of a certain field (and not the whole field), the
Import wizard cuts all the part of the field before the % symbol . For
example: TAG 1 (Title) has many subfields delimiters: abcdefghi. If a record
is "^aTitle^efirst description%esecond description" it cuts the Title and
the first description. If you repeat the whole field beginning from the
first subfield the import is OK. (The old CDS-ISIS Export/Import
option worked well in both cases.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>b) The ISIS pft formats were not upper/lower case
sensitive as to the subfield delimiter (V1^a or V1^A). It seems that the
same formats imported in JISIS are case sensitive (?). So I need to change
all the subfield delimiters to one of the two formats (upper/lower). Is it
correct? - The problem is that someone used the upper case, someone the
lower(!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>c) How can I manage the REF function used in ISIS pft
formats in JISIS? TECA.pft has a REF(LV27) call, in order to display the
contents of the single parts of a many-volume book. Is it possible to
translate it somehow in JISIS pft formats?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks for your help</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bye</FONT></DIV><SPAN class=HOEnZb><FONT
color=#888888>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Giuzzo
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