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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Giuzzo<br>
<br>
You are right, repeatable char is only used in the data entry
worksheet, because the repetition feature is managed by the
directory section of the Record,<br>
Anyway, you always can edit an ISO record as a text file,<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Ernesto<br>
<br>
El 28/04/2014 17:54, Giuzzo Barbaro escribió:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Dear Ernesto and Jean-Claude</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thank you for the hint, but the
problem is that the ISO file apparently has no % character: In
the export form -from DOS version- I selected the # character
as record delimiter and ~ (Alt+126) character as field
delimiter. (The % character is only used in data entry
worksheets, but it does not appear in the export ISO files, or
at least I cannot see it - I sent some sample ISO file in a
previous mail, so you can check).</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">:-(</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kind regards</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">giuzzo</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 28,
2014 10:36 PM</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Giuzzo<br>
<br>
Yes, this trick works, because I do this kind of customization
of ISO files very often<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Ernesto Spinak<br>
<br>
<br>
El 28/04/2014 17:25, Jean-Claude Dauphin escribió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Giuzzo,
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<div>I think that you can edit the ISO file with a text
editor and replace the % character by another one such as
the & character. I am not sure but it may work.</div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
<div>Jean-Claude</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM,
Giuzzo Barbaro <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</a>></span>
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class="gmail_quote">Dear Egbert and Jean-Claude<br>
<br>
many thanks for your valuable hints. It seems now to be
working ...! :-)<br>
<br>
Egbert, you' re perfectly right: the indexing technique
0 (instead of 5) in field 26 in the FST is a real
mistake.<br>
I didn't even notice that in the JISIS dictionary there
was no entry "Z=xxx" (in the sample I sent).<br>
The very strange fact is that the (wrong) syntax (26, 0,
mpu,"Z="V26) in the FST worked perfectly for more than
20 years in hundreds and hundreds of libraries using
TECAdb in the CDS/ISIS-WinISIS versions (!?) (in facts
you can easily check that in the sample ISIS "DOS"
version I attached to the mail, you can find all the
"Z=" terms in the Inverted file, despite the wrong
syntax!).<br>
<br>
Anyway, I changed the FST as you suggested and tried
your test-PFT and it works!<br>
Now I'll try to change all the PFT's in a correct way
(and may be I will need your help again, because now I'm
getting some parsing error... :-( )<br>
<br>
Thanks again<br>
<br>
(I'm still having problems with the repeatable
subfields, as I told you...I understand that this is
probably due somehow to a certain "misuse" of the
repetitions)<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
bye
<div><br>
giuzzo<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: "De Smet Egbert"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</a>><br>
To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <<a
href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</a>><br>
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Cc: "Jean-Claude Dauphin" <<a
href="mailto:jc.dauphin@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jc.dauphin@gmail.com</a>><br>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:37 PM
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Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing
ISO Files -andPFTFormats<br>
<br>
<br>
Hello again,<br>
<br>
no need to apologize, I only wanted to make clear
why there was no immediate reply.<br>
Now, I checked your PFT and I think the problem is
with the syntax.<br>
<br>
First of all I changed the line creating the 'Z='
entries, by making it technique 5 (instead of 0) :<br>
26 5 '/Z=/',mpu,(V26/)<br>
as before that I didn't see any Z= entries in your
dictionary.<br>
<br>
Then I created the following PFT for testing the
REF-function (e.g. called 'testref') :<br>
(if p(v27) then<br>
REF(L('Z='v27),<br>
'V1='v1' ',<br>
'V26='v26' ',<br>
'V29='v29/'<BR>')<br>
else 'no references' fi)<br>
<br>
and the output for MFN 2 is, in my opinion correct :<br>
V1=^aInferno V26=005555 V29=1<br>
V1=^aPurgatorio V26=005556 V29=2<br>
V1=^aParadiso V26=005557 V29=3<br>
<br>
Based on this output from the basic model PFT for
the REF-function, I think you should be able to
correct your PFT with correct output.<br>
If you don't manage, let us know.<br>
Egbert de Smet<br>
Universiteit Antwerpen<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: Giuzzo Barbaro [<a
href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</a>]<br>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:49 PM<br>
To: De Smet Egbert<br>
Cc: Jean-Claude Dauphin<br>
Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing
ISO Files -andPFTFormats<br>
<br>
Dear Egbert, Dear Jean-Claude<br>
<br>
Thank you for your kind interest.<br>
I am perfectly aware that you -and many people in
the ISIS community- are<br>
working mostly on a "voluntary basis" for the ISIS
project, and all of us<br>
are<br>
very grateful to you for all the efforts (and the
great work) you have done<br>
and still are doing for us.<br>
Therefore I apologize if I gave to you the
impression to ask (or worse<br>
"claim"...!) for a quick solution: it was absolutely
far from my intentions.<br>
I just wanted to share a problem with people having
a much deeper knowledge<br>
than mine, thinking that maybe other people
encountered -and solved- the<br>
same problems,<br>
and I sent the files attached to my previous mail
because I was asked to do<br>
so by someone. In the last days I shared with
friends living near me the<br>
great surprise and the honour of getting an
(unespected) answer from you to<br>
my emails.<br>
<br>
(I can simply add that working on a "voluntary
basis" applies somehow also<br>
to me-at a much lower level, as I was asked to solve
this problem -on a free<br>
basis, of course, as usual...- by others who updated
their machines to<br>
64-bit ones, and this is not "my" database - I am
only a school Math<br>
teacher, with a little ISIS knowledge due to many
years of usage.)<br>
<br>
Therefore it is not my intention to abuse your
kindness and your time, not<br>
to put anyone in a hurry to solve my problems,
please trust me. English is<br>
not my native language, and maybe some of my
expressions are not a correct<br>
translation of my real thoughts and feelings.<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
giuzzo<br>
<br>
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href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</a>><br>
To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <<a
href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</a>>;
"Jcd" <<a href="mailto:jc.dauphin@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jc.dauphin@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <<a href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">isis-users@iccisis.org</a>><br>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:01 PM<br>
Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing
ISO<br>
Files -andPFTFormats<br>
<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
in order to fully check your problem (which is in
fact the 'repeatable<br>
subfield' problem, something which originally was
NOT envisaged by<br>
ISIS-technology) a careful setup is required and
this simply takes some more<br>
time to be set aside for finding out. None of us is
full-time freed from<br>
other professional responsibilities to deal with
such issues, it is all<br>
about voluntary time and efforts, hoping to sustain
the ISIS-technology.<br>
When we discussed the REF-function for J-ISIS the
idea was to fully copy its<br>
functionality from WinISIS (in fact such
'run-time'-on-demand<br>
semi-relational capability is something other
database technology is envying<br>
ISIS for), so that for sure should be tested
carefully and if found wrong<br>
corrected. Maybe your data provide us with
interesting testing data, that<br>
can be useful indeed.<br>
So, some patience please.<br>
<br>
Egbert de Smet<br>
Universiteit Antwerpen<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=<a
href="mailto:ua.ac.be@iccisis.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ua.ac.be@iccisis.org</a>]
on<br>
behalf of Giuzzo Barbaro [<a
href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</a>]<br>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:54 AM<br>
To: Jcd<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">isis-users@iccisis.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing
ISO Files -<br>
andPFTFormats<br>
<br>
Dear Jean-Claude<br>
yesterday I sent this mail to you, with some
attachments, but I got an NDR<br>
message from your server (message too big (?) - it
was not so big, about<br>
160kB...). So I decided to cut the old conversations
and try to send it<br>
again to you.<br>
Thanks<br>
Kind regards<br>
giuzzo<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: Giuzzo Barbaro<mailto:<a
href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</a>><br>
To: María Mercedes MacLean<mailto:<a
href="mailto:gaspyy@infovia.com.ar"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gaspyy@infovia.com.ar</a>>
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Jcd<mailto:<a href="mailto:jc.dauphin@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jc.dauphin@gmail.com</a>>
; De Smet<br>
Egbert<mailto:<a
href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">isis-users@iccisis.org</a><mailto:<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">isis-users@iccisis.org</a>><br>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:46 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing
ISO Files -<br>
andPFTFormats<br>
<br>
Dear Jean-Claude, Maria Mercedes, Egbert and all
friends,<br>
<br>
attached to this mail you'll find some files (in
.zip format) - 2 export<br>
.ISO files and the TECA db structure, and an
explanation (Word) of the work<br>
I have done, to explain in a simple (?) way the
problems I have encountered.<br>
Thaks again for your help.<br>
Have a nice weekend<br>
Kind regards<br>
Giuzzo<br>
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