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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think the problem begins in the old Export
process, during which a "field" delimiter mark (~ for example) is
given also any time there is a "subfield" repetition.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>A possible "empirical" solution perhaps could be
simply deleting the field delimiter mark (~), if any, just before a subfield
delimiter (e.g. changing "~^e" with "^e" in the whole ISO file), assuming that
no other field ever "begins" with the same subfiled delimiter (e.g. ^e) in the
whole db (?). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But I need to test how the parsing (and
translating) process will work in that case, and I have many doubts. I'll check
in the sample ISO.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Have a good day</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>giuzzo</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=g.barbaro@mclink.net href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net">Giuzzo
Barbaro</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=spinaker@adinet.com.uy
href="mailto:spinaker@adinet.com.uy">spinaker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=isis-users@iccisis.org
href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org">isis-users@iccisis.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:06
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Isis-users] JISIS -
Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats</DIV>
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<DIV>Dear friends,</DIV>
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<DIV>In facts to solve the problem of the 'missing titles' in a practical way,
I was thinking about making a sort of "global change" in the ISO file,
changing "~^e" with " : " , which is the correct ISBD(M) syntax for this
subfield in the title area (indeed there is no real need to use a repeatable
subfield in this particular case) - or similars. But the problem is that this
change may affect all the ^e subfields also in the other fields in the whole
database, if any. And the syntax is not always the same. How can I make a
global change only in field 1 in the whole ISO file (or similar
actions)?</DIV>
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<DIV>Good night to you all</DIV>
<DIV>Giuzzo</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Il giorno 28/apr/2014, alle ore 22:59, spinaker <<A
href="mailto:spinaker@adinet.com.uy">spinaker@adinet.com.uy</A>> ha
scritto:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>Dear Giuzzo<BR><BR>You are right, repeatable char
is only used in the data entry worksheet, because the repetition feature is
managed by the directory section of the Record,<BR>Anyway, you always can
edit an ISO record as a text file,<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Ernesto<BR><BR>El
28/04/2014 17:54, Giuzzo Barbaro escribió:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dear Ernesto and Jean-Claude</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thank you for the hint, but the problem is
that the ISO file apparently has no % character: In the export form -from
DOS version- I selected the # character as record delimiter and ~
(Alt+126) character as field delimiter. (The % character is only used in
data entry worksheets, but it does not appear in the export ISO files, or
at least I cannot see it - I sent some sample ISO file in a previous mail,
so you can check).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>:-(</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Kind regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>giuzzo</FONT></DIV>
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moz-do-not-send="true">spinaker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=isis-users@iccisis.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 28, 2014 10:36
PM</DIV>
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Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats</DIV>
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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>Dear Giuzzo<BR><BR>Yes, this trick works,
because I do this kind of customization of ISO files very
often<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Ernesto Spinak<BR><BR><BR>El 28/04/2014 17:25,
Jean-Claude Dauphin escribió:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Dear Giuzzo,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I think that you can edit the ISO file with a text editor and
replace the % character by another one such as the &
character. I am not sure but it may work.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Best wishes,</DIV>
<DIV>Jean-Claude</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Dear Egbert and Jean-Claude<BR><BR>many thanks for
your valuable hints. It seems now to be working ...!
:-)<BR><BR>Egbert, you' re perfectly right: the indexing
technique 0 (instead of 5) in field 26 in the FST is a real
mistake.<BR>I didn't even notice that in the JISIS dictionary there
was no entry "Z=xxx" (in the sample I sent).<BR>The very strange
fact is that the (wrong) syntax (26, 0, mpu,"Z="V26) in the FST
worked perfectly for more than 20 years in hundreds and hundreds of
libraries using TECAdb in the CDS/ISIS-WinISIS versions (!?)
(in facts you can easily check that in the sample ISIS "DOS"
version I attached to the mail, you can find all the "Z=" terms in
the Inverted file, despite the wrong syntax!).<BR><BR>Anyway, I
changed the FST as you suggested and tried your test-PFT and it
works!<BR>Now I'll try to change all the PFT's in a correct way (and
may be I will need your help again, because now I'm getting some
parsing error... :-( )<BR><BR>Thanks again<BR><BR>(I'm still
having problems with the repeatable subfields, as I told you...I
understand that this is probably due somehow to a certain "misuse"
of the repetitions)<BR><BR>Kind regards<BR>bye
<DIV><BR>giuzzo<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "De
Smet Egbert" <<A href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</A>><BR>To:
"Giuzzo Barbaro" <<A href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</A>><BR></DIV>Cc:
"Jean-Claude Dauphin" <<A href="mailto:jc.dauphin@gmail.com"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">jc.dauphin@gmail.com</A>><BR>Sent: Sunday,
April 27, 2014 8:37 PM
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<DIV class=h5><BR>Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems
Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats<BR><BR><BR>Hello again,<BR><BR>no
need to apologize, I only wanted to make clear why there was no
immediate reply.<BR>Now, I checked your PFT and I think the problem
is with the syntax.<BR><BR>First of all I changed the line creating
the 'Z=' entries, by making it technique 5 (instead of 0) :<BR>26 5
'/Z=/',mpu,(V26/)<BR>as before that I didn't see any Z= entries in
your dictionary.<BR><BR>Then I created the following PFT for testing
the REF-function (e.g. called 'testref') :<BR>(if p(v27)
then<BR>REF(L('Z='v27),<BR>'V1='v1' ',<BR>'V26='v26'
',<BR>'V29='v29/'<BR>')<BR>else 'no references'
fi)<BR><BR>and the output for MFN 2 is, in my opinion correct
:<BR>V1=^aInferno V26=005555 V29=1<BR>V1=^aPurgatorio V26=005556
V29=2<BR>V1=^aParadiso V26=005557 V29=3<BR><BR>Based on this output
from the basic model PFT for the REF-function, I think you should be
able to correct your PFT with correct output.<BR>If you don't
manage, let us know.<BR>Egbert de Smet<BR>Universiteit
Antwerpen<BR>________________________________________<BR>From:
Giuzzo Barbaro [<A href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</A>]<BR>Sent: Sunday,
April 27, 2014 3:49 PM<BR>To: De Smet Egbert<BR>Cc: Jean-Claude
Dauphin<BR>Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
Files -andPFTFormats<BR><BR>Dear Egbert, Dear
Jean-Claude<BR><BR>Thank you for your kind interest.<BR>I am
perfectly aware that you -and many people in the ISIS community-
are<BR>working mostly on a "voluntary basis" for the ISIS project,
and all of us<BR>are<BR>very grateful to you for all the efforts
(and the great work) you have done<BR>and still are doing for
us.<BR>Therefore I apologize if I gave to you the impression to ask
(or worse<BR>"claim"...!) for a quick solution: it was absolutely
far from my intentions.<BR>I just wanted to share a problem with
people having a much deeper knowledge<BR>than mine, thinking that
maybe other people encountered -and solved- the<BR>same
problems,<BR>and I sent the files attached to my previous mail
because I was asked to do<BR>so by someone. In the last days I
shared with friends living near me the<BR>great surprise and the
honour of getting an (unespected) answer from you to<BR>my
emails.<BR><BR>(I can simply add that working on a "voluntary basis"
applies somehow also<BR>to me-at a much lower level, as I was asked
to solve this problem -on a free<BR>basis, of course, as usual...-
by others who updated their machines to<BR>64-bit ones, and this is
not "my" database - I am only a school Math<BR>teacher, with a
little ISIS knowledge due to many years of usage.)<BR><BR>Therefore
it is not my intention to abuse your kindness and your time,
not<BR>to put anyone in a hurry to solve my problems, please trust
me. English is<BR>not my native language, and maybe some of my
expressions are not a correct<BR>translation of my real thoughts and
feelings.<BR><BR>Kind regards<BR>giuzzo<BR><BR>----- Original
Message -----<BR>From: "De Smet Egbert" <<A
href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</A>><BR>To:
"Giuzzo Barbaro" <<A href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net"
target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</A>>;
"Jcd" <<A href="mailto:jc.dauphin@gmail.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">jc.dauphin@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: <<A
href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">isis-users@iccisis.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:01 PM<BR>Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS -
Problems Importing ISO<BR>Files
-andPFTFormats<BR><BR><BR>Hello,<BR><BR>in order to fully check your
problem (which is in fact the 'repeatable<BR>subfield' problem,
something which originally was NOT envisaged by<BR>ISIS-technology)
a careful setup is required and this simply takes some more<BR>time
to be set aside for finding out. None of us is full-time freed
from<BR>other professional responsibilities to deal with such
issues, it is all<BR>about voluntary time and efforts, hoping to
sustain the ISIS-technology.<BR>When we discussed the REF-function
for J-ISIS the idea was to fully copy its<BR>functionality from
WinISIS (in fact such 'run-time'-on-demand<BR>semi-relational
capability is something other database technology is envying<BR>ISIS
for), so that for sure should be tested carefully and if found
wrong<BR>corrected. Maybe your data provide us with interesting
testing data, that<BR>can be useful indeed.<BR>So, some patience
please.<BR><BR>Egbert de Smet<BR>Universiteit
Antwerpen<BR>________________________________________<BR>From:
isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=<A
href="mailto:ua.ac.be@iccisis.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">ua.ac.be@iccisis.org</A>] on<BR>behalf of
Giuzzo Barbaro [<A href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</A>]<BR>Sent: Sunday,
April 27, 2014 11:54 AM<BR>To: Jcd<BR>Cc: <A
href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">isis-users@iccisis.org</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files
-<BR>andPFTFormats<BR><BR>Dear Jean-Claude<BR>yesterday I sent this
mail to you, with some attachments, but I got an NDR<BR>message from
your server (message too big (?) - it was not so big,
about<BR>160kB...). So I decided to cut the old conversations and
try to send it<BR>again to you.<BR>Thanks<BR>Kind
regards<BR>giuzzo<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Giuzzo
Barbaro<mailto:<A href="mailto:g.barbaro@mclink.net"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">g.barbaro@mclink.net</A>><BR>To: María
Mercedes MacLean<mailto:<A href="mailto:gaspyy@infovia.com.ar"
target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">gaspyy@infovia.com.ar</A>>
;<BR>Jcd<mailto:<A href="mailto:jc.dauphin@gmail.com"
target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">jc.dauphin@gmail.com</A>> ;
De Smet<BR>Egbert<mailto:<A
href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</A>><BR>Cc: <A
href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">isis-users@iccisis.org</A><mailto:<A
href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">isis-users@iccisis.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:46 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS
- Problems Importing ISO Files -<BR>andPFTFormats<BR><BR>Dear
Jean-Claude, Maria Mercedes, Egbert and all friends,<BR><BR>attached
to this mail you'll find some files (in .zip format) - 2
export<BR>.ISO files and the TECA db structure, and an
explanation (Word) of the work<BR>I have done, to explain in a
simple (?) way the problems I have encountered.<BR>Thaks again for
your help.<BR>Have a nice weekend<BR>Kind
regards<BR>Giuzzo<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>isis-users
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