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<p>Eustache,</p>
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<p>as explained earlier in other messages on this list, not the number of occurrences itself is limited, but the total size of these occurrences filling the max-recordsize of CISIS. That is the main limiting factor and also the main reason that I wanted ABCD2.x
(soon 2.2) to work with other varieties of CISIS, mainly BigISIS as that one does do incremental indexing as opposed to FFI. FFI is more aiming at 'static' databases with larger records. The max no. of records is in my humble opinion not the crucial factor
: it is still '2 to the power of 24' (due to the setup of XRF), meaning more than 16 million and enough for most applications.
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<p>Now, back to your concrete problem : I see 2 options, i.e. <br>
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<li>try to avoid such high number of occurrences (repeats of a field) by moving them to another database and use REF(L(), the semi-relations feature of ISIS. You could also consider splitting the record over more than one in the same database and using REF(L()
to the database itself ('internal REF') rather than to another one.</li><li>testing the records with BigISIS. However we only have it currently only in Linux, while we might need to try to re-compile CISIS for BigISIS now that Windows 64-bits is totally 'normal' (it wasn't at the time). That means : records up to 1Mb (but possibly
still not enough) but total size of the database up to 512 Gb.</li></ol>
<p>Can I ask you : do you see such a MFN with high number of occurrences (250 or more ?) to be stored correctly in the MST, only not being possible to get indexed ? That, i.e. the record itself being not too large but because of its size not indexable, is possible
since for indexing some more temporary space is needed to store keys etc. in the 'virtual' ISIS-record CISIS always uses for internal manipulation. Then the problem is not the storage indeed but the indexing. By the way, in ABCD2.x we use external (and larger)
text-files which still are indexed (for full-text indexing of repositories), so they are not within the record but referred to when indexing (with the parameter 'gload='). I doubt this to be a good solution, because still the virtual record is used while indexing,
whether in the end the problem would be solved by doing this as opposed to having the occurrences stored within the record, but it could be worth a try.
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<p><span>But : if the text-files are too large they will be automatically split while referring with a key to the same 'mother record ID' in the new version of ABCD2.2. Dumping your 250+ occurrences field into an external text-file with your basic fields (title,
author...) stored as Dublin Core meta-tags (preserved and stored automatically in each split record), therefore would also be possible.
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<p>If you send me a couple of such records (in ISO-format with accompanying FDT and FST), I could give it a try as a third option.<br>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I’m using the windows version of CISIS ffi to treat data i’ve downloaded from the web. Due to the problem with the inverted file key you drew my attention on, I limited data to
import to the isis format database. So, in fact, the database is no longer « larger » as it should be.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I have 50,000 records and I continue adding new ones. Recenty, I added about 12,000 new records, but while updating the inverted file, I received back the
<b>message error fatal : fullinv/ifload</b>. I don’t understand the meaning of this error, but I checked, using mx with dict= parameter and found that the IF was empty. Then I suspected the number of occurrences in one repeatable field. After checking, I noticed
that within the new added records, some have a number of occurrences over 250. Is such a number of occurrences the cause of the problem ?</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Eustache Mêgnigbêto [mailto:eustache.megnigbeto@outlook.com]
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<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 10 juillet 2019 09:52<br>
<b>À :</b> Egbert De Smet<br>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I tried in windows with the ffi version, and it works. I will try under linux afternoon with the bigisis version.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Thank you very much.</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> Egbert De Smet [</span><a href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">]
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<b>Sent:</b> mercredi 10 juillet 2019 08:45<br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">Well, obviously the same way :
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 10, 2019 9:23 AM<br>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Many thanks,</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">And next how to activate the bigisis under linux ?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> mercredi 10 juillet 2019 08:09<br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">In the file dr_path.def of the database concerned (in its 'base' folder) put the line :
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">CISIS_VERSION=ffi</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">You will note that with ffi no 'incremental indexing' (one record by one) will be possible, nor word-proximity searching. Better to use bigisis but that only works in Linux at this time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">Dear Egbert,</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black" lang="EN-US">I downloaded some data from the web and converted them to a text delimited format, then I used the id2i utility to convert to a ISIS database. However, I noticed
that the data were too large to be handled with the standard CISIS utilities. So I used the FFI version of id2i to convert and mx to read, etc.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black" lang="EN-US">Now, I would like to know how to manage such a database with ABCD since the standard ABCD could not do and since in the ABCD 2.0f version, the subfolder FFI in the
cgi-bin sub folder contains the necessary files ? In other words, what changes should I do in the cgi-bin folder to be able to operate the database with ABCD ?</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black" lang="EN-US">Many thank in advance.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black"></span></p>
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