<div dir="ltr">I get it, so it's really not possible.<br><br>I had already thought about printing one at a time and then joining them, but as there is another folder for the second library and it contains 5 databases, it would be more practical to create a single format that could generate all of them.<br><br>Anyway, I really appreciate your help and goodwill!<br><br>I wish you the best! Thanks a lot<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em ter., 12 de mai. de 2020 às 12:28, Egbert De Smet <<a href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>one could print a report in which for each record from the catalog a record with the same MFN (as the common key) of the other database is printed, using REF, e.g.
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<p>REF->TRIDI(L->TRIDI(mfn), v1, v2 ...)</p>
<p>Since there is no logical relation to the records of both databases it doesn't make sense, but technically it would be possible.
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<p>If the only idea is to print all catalog records and all keywords records in one spreadsheet, indeed it makes more sense to print both databases separately and then merge both CSV-files within the spreadsheet. But I don't see the point of it.
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<p>Are you sure you don't want to print for each catalog record the keywords which are related to that catalog record ? But then : see my previous e-mail with explanation how to relate records using a common key.
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<span lang="EN-US">I am afraid this is not possible. The report function is meant to retrieve data from only one database. The ref function is, like Egbert explained, meant to get additional data from another database for each record. You still have
to make two reports and add them together using other software, e.g. a word processor, Excel. If I understand it well you want a list with all titles and keywords. I would make two exports, in comma delimited format and import one after the other in Excel.
This would allow me to sort them alphabetically. From there you can export that list to whatever you want: a word processor report, HTML etc.</span></p>
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<b><span lang="NL">Van:</span></b><span lang="NL"> Soraya Ferraz Lima <<a href="mailto:soyferrazlima@gmail.com" target="_blank">soyferrazlima@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Aan:</b> Egbert De Smet <<a href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be" target="_blank">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</a>><br>
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Piet, this is exactly what I want to do:<br>
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To list all data from two databases in one list!<br>
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The bases are different, there is no connection between them. I just want to list the data and fields in a single list with the option to generate spreadsheet.<br>
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As if I were going to make an inventory of all the registered content (in fact, I was not able to make the stock-taking tool [manual ref.] work, as I do not use the copies base, but that is another matter).<br>
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Currently, it is possible to generate a base-by-base list, but I want to unify that list.<br>
I'm using the report module (central / dbadmin / pft.php).<br>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Sofie,</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I expect your problem to be the third one listed by Piet under here : you want to print records from the ACERVO-database (your catalog) but with, for each individual record, additional data which are stored in
a different database, i.e. TRIDI.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">In that case (but ignore the following if not) the assumption is that there is a 'common key', i.e. a value in the fields of both databases which is common and links the individual records.
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">E.g. : </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> - the principal author name in your catalog, e.g. v100</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> - 'other variants' of the same author name, stored in a separate database, where the author-name is stored in v1 and the other variant in v2</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Then in this case the author name would act as the common key and the REF-link would be constructed as :
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">REF->TRIDI(L('AU_'v100), v2)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">because when reading e.g. MFN1 of ACERVO, ISIS can use the v100 value (author name) to look for it in the index of TRIDI with the prefix 'AU_' (assuming TRIDI indexes the author names with AU_ prefix), retrieve
the record of the first posting (and only the first one...unless you use the special ABCD Central 'repeated REF' trick) and take the v2 from that record to print in the catalog record of MFN1. If the L-function doesn't find the correspondent record in TRIDI
(there is no variant name), nothing will be output with the REF. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Of course in this example author-names in both databases should exactly match, which is not obvious. In most cases for such set-ups you would prefer to use a numerical key stored in both databases. E.g. the 'accession
number' assigned automatically in a MARC-catalog could serve as the key in your TRIDI-database, to mark in TRIDI-records the catalog-record to which it is linked.
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">If you need more help, maybe you should send one or more examples with concrete data (e.g. a few ISO-output records from both databases), or at least a sample output (manually constructed) to illustrate what you
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<b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Piet De Keyser <<a href="mailto:piet.dekeyser@ucll.be" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">piet.dekeyser@ucll.be</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Soraya Ferraz Lima; Egbert De Smet<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lista Isis<br>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">I am afraid it still is not very clear what you want to do. Do you want:</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">to list all data from two databases in one list?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">to make a list from e.g. which records contain the word “water” in the title in both databases?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">to list data from database A and for each record retrieve some corresponding data from database B (comparable with what happens in relational databases)?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Piet de Keyser</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Belgium</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><b><span style="color:black" lang="NL">Van:</span></b><span style="color:black" lang="NL"> isis-users <isis-users-bounces+piet.dekeyser=<a href="mailto:ucll.be@iccisis.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ucll.be@iccisis.org</a>>
<b>Namens </b>Soraya Ferraz Lima<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> maandag 11 mei 2020 23:33<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Egbert De Smet <<a href="mailto:egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">egbert.desmet@uantwerpen.be</a>><br>
<b>CC:</b> Lista Isis <<a href="mailto:isis-users@iccisis.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">isis-users@iccisis.org</a>><br>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:black">to show data of my two databases. When I select a database (in this case ACERVO [catalog]) the report format only shows data of this database. I want to "combine" the data of catalog and
tridi in a format.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:black">I hope I was clear now.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I is not fully clear to me what you want, at least not from you description. But what you are doing is this : you use the 'L'(ookup) function to identify in the TRIDI database the first posting (and only the first)
for the key 'BASE=TRIDI' and from that record you retrieve some fields like v245 and v650 (title and descriptors).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Normally the key used with the L-function would not be a fixed one, but one constructed by a value (preceded by your prefix) from the actual record (in the catalog database). Now, with a fixed key, all REF-operations
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Could you perhaps explain better what you want ?</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 8:40 PM<br>
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I have two databases (catalog and tridi) and I would like to print a report with the data from the two databases using the print feature.<br>
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I tried to use the ref feature, but only the first record of the base is displayed.<br>
Here is the format I used from the catalog base:<br>
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'<tr>'</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">'<td valign="top">',v245^a,|: |v245^b,if a(v245^a) then ' ',fi,'</td>'/<br>
'<td valign="top">',(v650+| / |),if a(v650) then ' ',fi,'</td>'/</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">'<td valign="top">',v245^a,|: |v245^b,if a(v245^a) then ' ',fi,'</td>'/<br>
'<td valign="top">',(v650+| / |),if a(v650) then ' ',fi,'</td>'/</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">OBS. I have the 'BASE=TRIDI' configured in the fst of tridi database.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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Is there any way to make the ref recursive or some other way to build this format?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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