[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats

Mon Apr 28 22:25:20 CEST 2014

Dear Giuzzo,

I think that you can edit the ISO file with a text editor and replace the %
character by another one such as  the & character. I am not sure but it may
work.

Best wishes,
Jean-Claude

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro <g.barbaro at mclink.net>wrote:

> Dear Egbert and Jean-Claude
>
> many thanks for your valuable hints. It seems now to be working ...!  :-)
>
> Egbert, you' re perfectly right: the indexing technique 0 (instead of 5)
> in field 26 in the FST is a real mistake.
> I didn't even notice that in the JISIS dictionary there was no entry
> "Z=xxx" (in the sample I sent).
> The very strange fact is that the (wrong) syntax (26, 0, mpu,"Z="V26) in
> the FST worked perfectly for more than 20 years in hundreds and hundreds of
> libraries using TECAdb in the CDS/ISIS-WinISIS versions (!?)  (in facts you
> can easily check that in the sample ISIS "DOS" version I attached to the
> mail, you can find all the "Z=" terms in the Inverted file, despite the
> wrong syntax!).
>
> Anyway, I changed the FST as you suggested and tried your test-PFT and it
> works!
> Now I'll try to change all the PFT's in a correct way (and may be I will
> need your help again, because now I'm getting some parsing error... :-(  )
>
> Thanks again
>
> (I'm still having problems with the repeatable subfields, as I told
> you...I understand that this is probably due somehow to a certain "misuse"
> of the repetitions)
>
> Kind regards
> bye
>
> giuzzo
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "De Smet Egbert" <
> egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
> To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net>
> Cc: "Jean-Claude Dauphin" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:37 PM
>
> Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files
> -andPFTFormats
>
>
> Hello again,
>
> no need to apologize, I only wanted to make clear why there was no
> immediate reply.
> Now, I checked your PFT and I think the problem is with the syntax.
>
> First of all I changed the line creating the 'Z=' entries, by making it
> technique 5 (instead of 0) :
> 26 5 '/Z=/',mpu,(V26/)
> as before that I didn't see any Z= entries in your dictionary.
>
> Then I created the following PFT for testing the REF-function (e.g. called
> 'testref') :
> (if p(v27) then
> REF(L('Z='v27),
> 'V1='v1'  ',
> 'V26='v26'    ',
> 'V29='v29/'<BR>')
> else 'no references' fi)
>
> and the output for MFN 2 is, in my opinion correct :
> V1=^aInferno V26=005555 V29=1
> V1=^aPurgatorio V26=005556 V29=2
> V1=^aParadiso V26=005557 V29=3
>
> Based on this output from the basic model PFT for the REF-function, I
> think you should be able to correct your PFT with correct output.
> If you don't manage, let us know.
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
> ________________________________________
> From: Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net]
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:49 PM
> To: De Smet Egbert
> Cc: Jean-Claude Dauphin
> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files
> -andPFTFormats
>
> Dear Egbert, Dear Jean-Claude
>
> Thank you for your kind interest.
> I am perfectly aware that you -and many people in the ISIS community- are
> working mostly on a "voluntary basis" for the ISIS project, and all of us
> are
> very grateful to you for all the efforts (and the great work) you have done
> and still are doing for us.
> Therefore I apologize if I gave to you the impression to ask (or worse
> "claim"...!) for a quick solution: it was absolutely far from my
> intentions.
> I just wanted to share a problem with people having a much deeper knowledge
> than mine, thinking that maybe other people encountered -and solved- the
> same problems,
> and I sent the files attached to my previous mail because I was asked to do
> so by someone. In the last days I shared with friends living near me the
> great surprise and the honour of getting an (unespected) answer from you to
> my emails.
>
> (I can simply add that working on a "voluntary basis" applies somehow also
> to me-at a much lower level, as I was asked to solve this problem -on a
> free
> basis, of course, as usual...- by others who updated their machines to
> 64-bit ones, and this is not "my" database - I am only a school Math
> teacher, with a little ISIS knowledge due to many years of usage.)
>
> Therefore it is not my intention to abuse your kindness and your time, not
> to put anyone in a hurry to solve my problems, please trust me. English is
> not my native language, and maybe some of my expressions are not a correct
> translation of my real thoughts and feelings.
>
> Kind regards
> giuzzo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "De Smet Egbert" <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
> To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net>; "Jcd" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
> Cc: <isis-users at iccisis.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
> Files -andPFTFormats
>
>
> Hello,
>
> in order to fully check your problem (which is in fact the 'repeatable
> subfield' problem, something which originally was NOT envisaged by
> ISIS-technology) a careful setup is required and this simply takes some
> more
> time to be set aside for finding out. None of us is full-time freed from
> other professional responsibilities to deal with such issues, it is all
> about voluntary time and efforts, hoping to sustain the ISIS-technology.
> When we discussed the REF-function for J-ISIS the idea was to fully copy
> its
> functionality from WinISIS (in fact such 'run-time'-on-demand
> semi-relational capability is something other database technology is
> envying
> ISIS for), so that for sure should be tested carefully and if found wrong
> corrected. Maybe your data provide us with interesting testing data, that
> can be useful indeed.
> So, some patience please.
>
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
> ________________________________________
> From: isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org]
> on
> behalf of Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net]
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:54 AM
> To: Jcd
> Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org
> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -
> andPFTFormats
>
> Dear Jean-Claude
> yesterday I sent this mail to you, with some attachments, but I got an NDR
> message from your server (message too big (?) - it was not so big, about
> 160kB...). So I decided to cut the old conversations and try to send it
> again to you.
> Thanks
> Kind regards
> giuzzo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Giuzzo Barbaro<mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>
> To: María Mercedes MacLean<mailto:gaspyy at infovia.com.ar> ;
> Jcd<mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com> ; De Smet
> Egbert<mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
> Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -
> andPFTFormats
>
> Dear Jean-Claude, Maria Mercedes, Egbert and all friends,
>
> attached to this mail you'll find some files (in .zip format) - 2 export
> .ISO files and the TECA db structure,  and an explanation (Word) of the
> work
> I have done, to explain in a simple (?) way the problems I have
> encountered.
> Thaks again for your help.
> Have a nice weekend
> Kind regards
> Giuzzo
>
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