[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats

[Giuzzo Barbaro]

Dear Egbert and Jean-Claude

many thanks for your valuable hints. It seems now to be working ...!  :-)

Egbert, you' re perfectly right: the indexing technique 0 (instead of 5) in 
field 26 in the FST is a real mistake.
I didn't even notice that in the JISIS dictionary there was no entry "Z=xxx" 
(in the sample I sent).
The very strange fact is that the (wrong) syntax (26, 0, mpu,"Z="V26) in the 
FST worked perfectly for more than 20 years in hundreds and hundreds of 
libraries using TECAdb in the CDS/ISIS-WinISIS versions (!?)  (in facts you 
can easily check that in the sample ISIS "DOS" version I attached to the 
mail, you can find all the "Z=" terms in the Inverted file, despite the 
wrong syntax!).

Anyway, I changed the FST as you suggested and tried your test-PFT and it 
works!
Now I'll try to change all the PFT's in a correct way (and may be I will 
need your help again, because now I'm getting some parsing error... :-(  )

Thanks again

(I'm still having problems with the repeatable subfields, as I told you...I 
understand that this is probably due somehow to a certain "misuse" of the 
repetitions)

Kind regards
bye
giuzzo


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "De Smet Egbert" <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net>
Cc: "Jean-Claude Dauphin" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO 
Files -andPFTFormats


Hello again,

no need to apologize, I only wanted to make clear why there was no immediate 
reply.
Now, I checked your PFT and I think the problem is with the syntax.

First of all I changed the line creating the 'Z=' entries, by making it 
technique 5 (instead of 0) :
26 5 '/Z=/',mpu,(V26/)
as before that I didn't see any Z= entries in your dictionary.

Then I created the following PFT for testing the REF-function (e.g. called 
'testref') :
(if p(v27) then
REF(L('Z='v27),
'V1='v1'  ',
'V26='v26'    ',
'V29='v29/'<BR>')
else 'no references' fi)

and the output for MFN 2 is, in my opinion correct :
V1=^aInferno V26=005555 V29=1
V1=^aPurgatorio V26=005556 V29=2
V1=^aParadiso V26=005557 V29=3

Based on this output from the basic model PFT for the REF-function, I think 
you should be able to correct your PFT with correct output.
If you don't manage, let us know.
Egbert de Smet
Universiteit Antwerpen
________________________________________
From: Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:49 PM
To: De Smet Egbert
Cc: Jean-Claude Dauphin
Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO 
Files -andPFTFormats

Dear Egbert, Dear Jean-Claude

Thank you for your kind interest.
I am perfectly aware that you -and many people in the ISIS community- are
working mostly on a "voluntary basis" for the ISIS project, and all of us
are
very grateful to you for all the efforts (and the great work) you have done
and still are doing for us.
Therefore I apologize if I gave to you the impression to ask (or worse
"claim"...!) for a quick solution: it was absolutely far from my intentions.
I just wanted to share a problem with people having a much deeper knowledge
than mine, thinking that maybe other people encountered -and solved- the
same problems,
and I sent the files attached to my previous mail because I was asked to do
so by someone. In the last days I shared with friends living near me the
great surprise and the honour of getting an (unespected) answer from you to
my emails.

(I can simply add that working on a "voluntary basis" applies somehow also
to me-at a much lower level, as I was asked to solve this problem -on a free
basis, of course, as usual...- by others who updated their machines to
64-bit ones, and this is not "my" database - I am only a school Math
teacher, with a little ISIS knowledge due to many years of usage.)

Therefore it is not my intention to abuse your kindness and your time, not
to put anyone in a hurry to solve my problems, please trust me. English is
not my native language, and maybe some of my expressions are not a correct
translation of my real thoughts and feelings.

Kind regards
giuzzo

----- Original Message -----
From: "De Smet Egbert" <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net>; "Jcd" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
Cc: <isis-users at iccisis.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
Files -andPFTFormats


Hello,

in order to fully check your problem (which is in fact the 'repeatable
subfield' problem, something which originally was NOT envisaged by
ISIS-technology) a careful setup is required and this simply takes some more
time to be set aside for finding out. None of us is full-time freed from
other professional responsibilities to deal with such issues, it is all
about voluntary time and efforts, hoping to sustain the ISIS-technology.
When we discussed the REF-function for J-ISIS the idea was to fully copy its
functionality from WinISIS (in fact such 'run-time'-on-demand
semi-relational capability is something other database technology is envying
ISIS for), so that for sure should be tested carefully and if found wrong
corrected. Maybe your data provide us with interesting testing data, that
can be useful indeed.
So, some patience please.

Egbert de Smet
Universiteit Antwerpen
________________________________________
From: isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org] on
behalf of Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:54 AM
To: Jcd
Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org
Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -
andPFTFormats

Dear Jean-Claude
yesterday I sent this mail to you, with some attachments, but I got an NDR
message from your server (message too big (?) - it was not so big, about
160kB...). So I decided to cut the old conversations and try to send it
again to you.
Thanks
Kind regards
giuzzo
----- Original Message -----
From: Giuzzo Barbaro<mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>
To: María Mercedes MacLean<mailto:gaspyy at infovia.com.ar> ;
Jcd<mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com> ; De Smet
Egbert<mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -
andPFTFormats

Dear Jean-Claude, Maria Mercedes, Egbert and all friends,

attached to this mail you'll find some files (in .zip format) - 2 export
.ISO files and the TECA db structure,  and an explanation (Word) of the work
I have done, to explain in a simple (?) way the problems I have encountered.
Thaks again for your help.
Have a nice weekend
Kind regards
Giuzzo

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