[Isis-users] Loan of same item twice

[Guilda Ascencio]

Yes, they are totally different modules. Now I can ask: Did you solve your
problem?

Regards

Guilda

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Oficina 75 <oficina75 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Reading a little bit more the manuals, I now realize that I should say
> Central Loans instead of Empweb. Since I use an ABCD version with loan
> process integrated, it means I use Central Loans, not Empweb, correct? It
> may answer your point.
>
>
> Oficina75
> ------------------------------
> *From:* De Smet Egbert <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2016 5:59:46 AM
> *To:* Oficina75 Marcenaria; isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Subject:* RE: Loan of same item twice
>
> Hi,
>
> coming back to this meanwhile solved issue : it remains a puzzle to me how
> a setting for the Central Loans (the 'default' for ABCD) can have any
> impact on the behavior of EmpWeb Loans (the 'advanced' one) since both
> operate totally independently with their own configuration files. More
> specifically I don't see how the extraction of the CN in the configuration
> form of Central Loans, stored in the file bases/marc/loans/en/loans_cn.pft,
> can have any impact on EmpWeb, but of course I am ready to learn more...
> Please don't see this as a criticism, just an effort to clear out things
> and learn more...
>
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Oficina75 Marcenaria [oficina75 at hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:40 AM
> *To:* De Smet Egbert; isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Subject:* Re: Loan of same item twice
>
> It was item #7 from the link I have mentined before. It's within Loan >
> Configuration > Source Databases >
> 7. PFT for extracting the classification number (loans_cn.pft). There was
> a mistake on the way the key was extracted/created by formatting language.
> Thanks for mentioning the manual, it was one of those I've read throughout
> last couple of weeks.
>
> Oficina75
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* De Smet Egbert <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:32:02 PM
> *To:* Oficina75 Marcenaria; isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Subject:* RE: Loan of same item twice
>
> Good to see it is solved, but can you be a bit more specific : which item
> #7 did you have to change ?
>
> Please note there is also another manual I drafted specifically for EmpWeb
> : see http://abcd.netcat.be/file <http://abcd.netcat.be/files>
> s/documents.html
>
>
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
> ------------------------------
> *From:* isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org]
> on behalf of Oficina75 Marcenaria [oficina75 at hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:01 PM
> *To:* isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] Loan of same item twice
>
> Solved. Reconfiguration of item #7 of
> http://abcdwiki.net/ABCofABCDv13t/ch02s06.html#d0e5382.
>
> Now Empweb recognizes that item is already loaned.
>
>
> Oficina75
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Oficina75 Marcenaria
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:54:04 AM
> *To:* De Smet Egbert; isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Subject:* Re: Loan of same item twice
>
>
> Hi Egbert and all,
>
>
>
> I mean Empweb is allowing loaning of a single item twice to different
> users. It should block - or warn - the operator, but instead, performs the
> loan again. I'm testing Empweb, this is not a production scenario. Item has
> a unique id/barcode and, after performing a loan to an user, I tried to
> loan the same item to another user right after, and Empweb allowed. Of
> course, we know this is not correct.
>
> So I was wondering how to configure Empweb in order to avoid that.
>
>
>
> Oficina75
> ------------------------------
> *From:* De Smet Egbert <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2016 4:15:37 AM
> *To:* Oficina75 Marcenaria; isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Subject:* RE: Loan of same item twice
>
> Hi,
>
> I haven't had any such feedback from other EmpWeb users and actually there
> is no way to create a 'rule' or policy which would allow this. So are you
> sure the same items have the same barcodes (or other identifiers) ? One
> title can have several items ('copies' with different barcodes) but one
> item can only be lent once, of course.
> Or do you mean that in one single transaction more than one user is
> involved ? Then are these users from the ISIS-patrons database or from the
> SQL-users table ?
>
> More information (screenshots, remote access...) will be necessary to
> check more in-depth on this.
>
> Egbert de Smet
> Universiteit Antwerpen
> ------------------------------
> *From:* isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org]
> on behalf of Oficina75 Marcenaria [oficina75 at hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:36 AM
> *To:* isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Subject:* [Isis-users] Loan of same item twice
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Empweb is loaning the same item to more than one user. How do we avoid
> that?
>
>
>
> Oficina75
>
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