[Isis-users] Loan of same item twice

[Oficina 75]

Yes, it's solved.


Oficina75

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From: Guilda Ascencio <guildaa at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 10:23:27 AM
To: Oficina 75
Cc: De Smet Egbert; isis-users at iccisis.org
Subject: Re: [Isis-users] Loan of same item twice

Yes, they are totally different modules. Now I can ask: Did you solve your problem?

Regards

Guilda

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Oficina 75 <oficina75 at hotmail.com<mailto:oficina75 at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,


Reading a little bit more the manuals, I now realize that I should say Central Loans instead of Empweb. Since I use an ABCD version with loan process integrated, it means I use Central Loans, not Empweb, correct? It may answer your point.


Oficina75

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From: De Smet Egbert <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be<mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 5:59:46 AM
To: Oficina75 Marcenaria; isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
Subject: RE: Loan of same item twice

Hi,

coming back to this meanwhile solved issue : it remains a puzzle to me how a setting for the Central Loans (the 'default' for ABCD) can have any impact on the behavior of EmpWeb Loans (the 'advanced' one) since both operate totally independently with their own configuration files. More specifically I don't see how the extraction of the CN in the configuration form of Central Loans, stored in the file bases/marc/loans/en/loans_cn.pft, can have any impact on EmpWeb, but of course I am ready to learn more...
Please don't see this as a criticism, just an effort to clear out things and learn more...

Egbert de Smet
Universiteit Antwerpen
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From: Oficina75 Marcenaria [oficina75 at hotmail.com<mailto:oficina75 at hotmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:40 AM
To: De Smet Egbert; isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
Subject: Re: Loan of same item twice


It was item #7 from the link I have mentined before. It's within Loan > Configuration > Source Databases >

7. PFT for extracting the classification number (loans_cn.pft). There was a mistake on the way the key was extracted/created by formatting language.
Thanks for mentioning the manual, it was one of those I've read throughout last couple of weeks.

Oficina75

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From: De Smet Egbert <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be<mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:32:02 PM
To: Oficina75 Marcenaria; isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
Subject: RE: Loan of same item twice

Good to see it is solved, but can you be a bit more specific : which item #7 did you have to change ?

Please note there is also another manual I drafted specifically for EmpWeb : see http://abcd.netcat.be/file<http://abcd.netcat.be/files>s/documents.html


Egbert de Smet
Universiteit Antwerpen
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From: isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org<mailto:ua.ac.be at iccisis.org>] on behalf of Oficina75 Marcenaria [oficina75 at hotmail.com<mailto:oficina75 at hotmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Isis-users] Loan of same item twice


Solved. Reconfiguration of item #7 of http://abcdwiki.net/ABCofABCDv13t/ch02s06.html#d0e5382.

Now Empweb recognizes that item is already loaned.


Oficina75

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From: Oficina75 Marcenaria
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:54:04 AM
To: De Smet Egbert; isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
Subject: Re: Loan of same item twice


Hi Egbert and all,



I mean Empweb is allowing loaning of a single item twice to different users. It should block - or warn - the operator, but instead, performs the loan again. I'm testing Empweb, this is not a production scenario. Item has a unique id/barcode and, after performing a loan to an user, I tried to loan the same item to another user right after, and Empweb allowed. Of course, we know this is not correct.

So I was wondering how to configure Empweb in order to avoid that.



Oficina75

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From: De Smet Egbert <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be<mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 4:15:37 AM
To: Oficina75 Marcenaria; isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
Subject: RE: Loan of same item twice

Hi,

I haven't had any such feedback from other EmpWeb users and actually there is no way to create a 'rule' or policy which would allow this. So are you sure the same items have the same barcodes (or other identifiers) ? One title can have several items ('copies' with different barcodes) but one item can only be lent once, of course.
Or do you mean that in one single transaction more than one user is involved ? Then are these users from the ISIS-patrons database or from the SQL-users table ?

More information (screenshots, remote access...) will be necessary to check more in-depth on this.

Egbert de Smet
Universiteit Antwerpen
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From: isis-users [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org<mailto:ua.ac.be at iccisis.org>] on behalf of Oficina75 Marcenaria [oficina75 at hotmail.com<mailto:oficina75 at hotmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:36 AM
To: isis-users at iccisis.org<mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
Subject: [Isis-users] Loan of same item twice


Hi all,



Empweb is loaning the same item to more than one user. How do we avoid that?



Oficina75

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