[Isis-users] ABCD - fields marked with < >
Wenke Adam
wenkeadam at gmail.com
Wed Sep 5 04:56:56 CEST 2012
Hey, hey, hey!
Let's set the record straight: I've got NOTHING against the CDS training
database, in fact I always recommend my trainees to browse it and use it in
conjunction with the ISIS manuals, as all examples in the books are taken
from that database.
My only objection (and why I screamed in Rio) is that I'm tired of always
seeing as example the same first record with the techniques for the
measurement of transpiration in individual plants...
How many really realize that the CDS database contains a lot of other
subjects besides agronomy/plant biology, and that there are records in
Spanish, Portuguese and French?
cheers
wenke
Epa! Epa! Epa!
No tengo NADA en contra de la base CDS, de hecho siempre le recomiendo a
mis alumnos que la usen en conjunto con el estudio de los manuales, ya que
todos los ejemplos de los libros se sacaron de la base CDS.
Mi única objeción (y de allí mi grito en Rio) es que estoy hasta aquí con
ver que siempre se muestra ese primer registro con las técnicas para medir
la transpiración de las plantas, en inglés.
¿Cuántos usuarios realmente saben que la base CDS contiene todo tipo de
materias (educación, economía, etc, etc) además de agronomía/biología
vegetal y que hay registros en español, portugués y francés?
Saludos
wenke
2012/9/4 spinaker <spinaker at adinet.com.uy>
> Dear everybody
>
> María Mercedes' question is very important to all users of Isis family, so
> I'll give one of the many solutions in my basic English (or something like
> this)
>
> Using the <...> to mark terms to be indexed with technique 2, is really a
> problem today because it conflicts with html/xml tags
>
> The reason for using this technique goes back to the distant past of
> computers (about 30 years), when hard drives were very expensive and each
> byte you saved in a record was significant. A 10MB hard disk in the early
> 80s could cost a week's wages,
>
> But let us turn to the problem
>
> My personal view (others may say different) is that it is convenient to
> convert all fields using <...> for indexing, to repeatable fields. There
> are two or three ways to do this using CISIS programs ... surely you were
> already suspecting ;-)
>
> Let's take the CDS demo database that comes with the Winisis to explain
> the trick
> (I hear a scream of Wenke Adam from the other side of the Andes ... but
> yes, CDS demo base is very convenient
>
> *Method I*
>
> CDS dbase uses field 69 with keywords enclosed with <...>
>
> 69 Paper on: <plant physiology> <moisture> <temperature> <wind>
> <measurement and instruments> <ecosystems>
>
> We will replace the chains: *><* and *> < * by the symbol *%*
> and we will also remove from the records the begining text: *Paper on:*
> for this we need to build a gizmo file
> a simple way to make a gizmo file is preparing a simple text file using
> notepad and then create the gizmo using mx
>
> Let's create xxx.txt with notepad and write the following lines
>
> *> <|%*
> *> <|%*
> *> |*
> *<|*
> *Paper on: |*
>
> give <enter> in the last line, and save it
>
> Note that lines 3 to 5 do not have anything to the right of the symbol * |
> *
>
> now from the command line of the operating system do the following
> *
> C:\> mx seq=xxx.txt create=xxx now -all
> C:\> mx cds gizmo=xxx,69 create=cds1 now -all tell=10*
>
> Now let's take a look to the field v69, and see the changes
>
> *69 plant physiology%moisture%temperature%wind%measurement and
> instruments%ecosystems**
> *
> Almost there, missing a step
>
> *c:\> mxcp cds1 create=cds2 repeat=%,69 clean*
>
> look now the record
>
> *69 «plant physiology»*
> *69 «moisture»*
> *69 «temperature»*
> *69 «wind»*
> *69 «measurement and instruments»*
> *69 «ecosystems»*
>
>
> There are other more sophisticated ways to do the same, but when you
> master this procedure ask for the rest
> It is highly recommended that you learn to use the tools included in
> CISIS package,
>
> Regards
> Ernesto Spinak
> ------------------------------
>
>
> El 04/09/2012 17:16, María Mercedes MacLean escribió:
>
> Hola a todos, tengo una base de 8600 MFN, que está mal cargada.... de
> hecho no puedo trabajarla en el GenisisWeb ya que se corta el diccionario,
> La migre a ABCD para ver si podia verla mas o menos mejor con el iAH
> El tema es que los descriptores estan cargados asi:
> <Semiótica> <Economía> <Política> <Historia> <Sociología> <cultura>
> <Educación> <Literatura><Psicología> <Religiosidad> <Filosofía> <Teología
> Práctica> <Historia de las Iglesias> <Biblia> <Contexto Bíblico> <Teología
> sistemática>
> Entonces, si bien el diccionario del ABCD me muestra una que otra palabra
> suelta, lo que mas hay son numeros 1 y todos los terminos juntos ...
> hasta que no hay mas espacios y se corta.
> ¿Alguien le ve solucion?
> Y la segunda duda
> ¿Como hago en ABCD un formateo para que me muestre ese campo 76 completo?
> Aunque diga if p(v76) then '<i>Descriptores:</i> ', (v76+|; |/) fi,
> no muestra nada porque lo toma como un campo no repetible....
> En fin, perdon Alguna ayuda?
> Saludos
> -----------------------------
>
> Hello to all, I have a base of 8600 MFN that is not well loaded.... in
> fact I cannot work her since in the GenisisWeb intersects the dictionary,
> The migre to ABCD to see if could see it better with the iAH
> The topic is that the describers are loaded this way:
> <Semiótica> <Economía> <Política> <Historia> <Sociología> <cultura>
> <Educación> <Literatura><Psicología> <Religiosidad> <Filosofía> <Teología
> Práctica> <Historia de las Iglesias> <Biblia> <Contexto Bíblico> <Teología
> sistemática>
>
> Then, although the dictionary of the ABCD shows me one that another loose
> word, that that but there is they are together numbers 1 and all the
> terms... until there is not but spaces and intersects.
> Does somebody see him solution?
> And the second doubt
> As I make in ABCD a formateo so that it shows me that field 76 complete?
> Although says
> if p(v76) then '<i>Descriptores:</i> ', (v76+|; |/) fi,
>
> it doesn't show anything because takes it as a field non repetible....
> The end... sorry, help?
> Greetings
> Maria Mercedes MacLean
> http://www.proyectoleonardo.com.ar/AulaVirtual/
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> 3m at proyectoleonardo.com.ar
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> 3m at mamercedesmaclean.com.ar
> Visite nuestros proyectos
> www.proyectoleonardo.com.ar
>
>
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