[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -andPFTFormats
spinaker
spinaker at adinet.com.uy
Mon Apr 28 22:59:03 CEST 2014
Dear Giuzzo
You are right, repeatable char is only used in the data entry worksheet,
because the repetition feature is managed by the directory section of
the Record,
Anyway, you always can edit an ISO record as a text file,
Regards
Ernesto
El 28/04/2014 17:54, Giuzzo Barbaro escribió:
> Dear Ernesto and Jean-Claude
> Thank you for the hint, but the problem is that the ISO file
> apparently has no % character: In the export form -from DOS version- I
> selected the # character as record delimiter and ~ (Alt+126) character
> as field delimiter. (The % character is only used in data entry
> worksheets, but it does not appear in the export ISO files, or at
> least I cannot see it - I sent some sample ISO file in a previous
> mail, so you can check).
> :-(
> Kind regards
> giuzzo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* spinaker <mailto:spinaker at adinet.com.uy>
> *To:* isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 28, 2014 10:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files
> -andPFTFormats
>
> Dear Giuzzo
>
> Yes, this trick works, because I do this kind of customization of
> ISO files very often
>
> Regards
> Ernesto Spinak
>
>
> El 28/04/2014 17:25, Jean-Claude Dauphin escribió:
>> Dear Giuzzo,
>>
>> I think that you can edit the ISO file with a text editor and
>> replace the % character by another one such as the & character.
>> I am not sure but it may work.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Jean-Claude
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro
>> <g.barbaro at mclink.net <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Egbert and Jean-Claude
>>
>> many thanks for your valuable hints. It seems now to be
>> working ...! :-)
>>
>> Egbert, you' re perfectly right: the indexing technique 0
>> (instead of 5) in field 26 in the FST is a real mistake.
>> I didn't even notice that in the JISIS dictionary there was
>> no entry "Z=xxx" (in the sample I sent).
>> The very strange fact is that the (wrong) syntax (26, 0,
>> mpu,"Z="V26) in the FST worked perfectly for more than 20
>> years in hundreds and hundreds of libraries using TECAdb in
>> the CDS/ISIS-WinISIS versions (!?) (in facts you can easily
>> check that in the sample ISIS "DOS" version I attached to the
>> mail, you can find all the "Z=" terms in the Inverted file,
>> despite the wrong syntax!).
>>
>> Anyway, I changed the FST as you suggested and tried your
>> test-PFT and it works!
>> Now I'll try to change all the PFT's in a correct way (and
>> may be I will need your help again, because now I'm getting
>> some parsing error... :-( )
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> (I'm still having problems with the repeatable subfields, as
>> I told you...I understand that this is probably due somehow
>> to a certain "misuse" of the repetitions)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> bye
>>
>> giuzzo
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "De Smet Egbert"
>> <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be
>> <mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
>> To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net
>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>>
>> Cc: "Jean-Claude Dauphin" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:37 PM
>>
>> Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>> Files -andPFTFormats
>>
>>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> no need to apologize, I only wanted to make clear why there
>> was no immediate reply.
>> Now, I checked your PFT and I think the problem is with the
>> syntax.
>>
>> First of all I changed the line creating the 'Z=' entries, by
>> making it technique 5 (instead of 0) :
>> 26 5 '/Z=/',mpu,(V26/)
>> as before that I didn't see any Z= entries in your dictionary.
>>
>> Then I created the following PFT for testing the REF-function
>> (e.g. called 'testref') :
>> (if p(v27) then
>> REF(L('Z='v27),
>> 'V1='v1' ',
>> 'V26='v26' ',
>> 'V29='v29/'<BR>')
>> else 'no references' fi)
>>
>> and the output for MFN 2 is, in my opinion correct :
>> V1=^aInferno V26=005555 V29=1
>> V1=^aPurgatorio V26=005556 V29=2
>> V1=^aParadiso V26=005557 V29=3
>>
>> Based on this output from the basic model PFT for the
>> REF-function, I think you should be able to correct your PFT
>> with correct output.
>> If you don't manage, let us know.
>> Egbert de Smet
>> Universiteit Antwerpen
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net
>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:49 PM
>> To: De Smet Egbert
>> Cc: Jean-Claude Dauphin
>> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>> Files -andPFTFormats
>>
>> Dear Egbert, Dear Jean-Claude
>>
>> Thank you for your kind interest.
>> I am perfectly aware that you -and many people in the ISIS
>> community- are
>> working mostly on a "voluntary basis" for the ISIS project,
>> and all of us
>> are
>> very grateful to you for all the efforts (and the great work)
>> you have done
>> and still are doing for us.
>> Therefore I apologize if I gave to you the impression to ask
>> (or worse
>> "claim"...!) for a quick solution: it was absolutely far from
>> my intentions.
>> I just wanted to share a problem with people having a much
>> deeper knowledge
>> than mine, thinking that maybe other people encountered -and
>> solved- the
>> same problems,
>> and I sent the files attached to my previous mail because I
>> was asked to do
>> so by someone. In the last days I shared with friends living
>> near me the
>> great surprise and the honour of getting an (unespected)
>> answer from you to
>> my emails.
>>
>> (I can simply add that working on a "voluntary basis" applies
>> somehow also
>> to me-at a much lower level, as I was asked to solve this
>> problem -on a free
>> basis, of course, as usual...- by others who updated their
>> machines to
>> 64-bit ones, and this is not "my" database - I am only a
>> school Math
>> teacher, with a little ISIS knowledge due to many years of
>> usage.)
>>
>> Therefore it is not my intention to abuse your kindness and
>> your time, not
>> to put anyone in a hurry to solve my problems, please trust
>> me. English is
>> not my native language, and maybe some of my expressions are
>> not a correct
>> translation of my real thoughts and feelings.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> giuzzo
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "De Smet Egbert" <egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be
>> <mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
>> To: "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net
>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>>; "Jcd" <jc.dauphin at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>>
>> Cc: <isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:01 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>> Files -andPFTFormats
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> in order to fully check your problem (which is in fact the
>> 'repeatable
>> subfield' problem, something which originally was NOT
>> envisaged by
>> ISIS-technology) a careful setup is required and this simply
>> takes some more
>> time to be set aside for finding out. None of us is full-time
>> freed from
>> other professional responsibilities to deal with such issues,
>> it is all
>> about voluntary time and efforts, hoping to sustain the
>> ISIS-technology.
>> When we discussed the REF-function for J-ISIS the idea was to
>> fully copy its
>> functionality from WinISIS (in fact such 'run-time'-on-demand
>> semi-relational capability is something other database
>> technology is envying
>> ISIS for), so that for sure should be tested carefully and if
>> found wrong
>> corrected. Maybe your data provide us with interesting
>> testing data, that
>> can be useful indeed.
>> So, some patience please.
>>
>> Egbert de Smet
>> Universiteit Antwerpen
>> ________________________________________
>> From: isis-users
>> [isis-users-bounces+egbert.desmet=ua.ac.be at iccisis.org
>> <mailto:ua.ac.be at iccisis.org>] on
>> behalf of Giuzzo Barbaro [g.barbaro at mclink.net
>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:54 AM
>> To: Jcd
>> Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -
>> andPFTFormats
>>
>> Dear Jean-Claude
>> yesterday I sent this mail to you, with some attachments, but
>> I got an NDR
>> message from your server (message too big (?) - it was not so
>> big, about
>> 160kB...). So I decided to cut the old conversations and try
>> to send it
>> again to you.
>> Thanks
>> Kind regards
>> giuzzo
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Giuzzo Barbaro<mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net
>> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>>
>> To: María Mercedes MacLean<mailto:gaspyy at infovia.com.ar
>> <mailto:gaspyy at infovia.com.ar>> ;
>> Jcd<mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>> ; De Smet
>> Egbert<mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be
>> <mailto:egbert.desmet at uantwerpen.be>>
>> Cc: isis-users at iccisis.org
>> <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org><mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org
>> <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files -
>> andPFTFormats
>>
>> Dear Jean-Claude, Maria Mercedes, Egbert and all friends,
>>
>> attached to this mail you'll find some files (in .zip format)
>> - 2 export
>> .ISO files and the TECA db structure, and an explanation
>> (Word) of the work
>> I have done, to explain in a simple (?) way the problems I
>> have encountered.
>> Thaks again for your help.
>> Have a nice weekend
>> Kind regards
>> Giuzzo
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
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