[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files - and PFTFormats
spinaker
spinaker at adinet.com.uy
Sun Apr 20 23:21:38 CEST 2014
Dear JC
With the suggested syntax, how do you distinguish between a repeatable
field from the repeatable subfield?
Example
* v12[1] ^aPersonal Name1 ^dDates ^rRelator term 1.1 ^rRelator term 1.2
v12[2] ^aPersonal Name2 ^dDates ^rRelator term 2.1
v12[3] ^aPersonal Name3 ^dDates ^rRelator term 3.1 ^rRelator term 3.2*
now, you want to extract the first subfield ^r from the third occ of
the field v12
Regards
Ernesto Spiak
El 20/04/2014 17:32, Jcd escribió:
> Dear Guizzo,
>
> Could you please explain how you use repeatable subfields in
> ISiS/WinISIS. I mean in PFTs. Do you think that extending PFTS
> language with subfields occurrences such as:
> (V12^a) ->all V12^a subfields occurrences
> V12^a[1] -> occurrence 1 of subfield a field 12
> Any other ideas ?
>
> I will check yr problem with the REF function
>
> Best,
>
> Jean-Claude
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 23:33, "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net
> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>> wrote:
>
>> * ...ooops...: I meant "PRI.*PFT*" (!)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Giuzzo Barbaro <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>
>> *To:* Jean-Claude Dauphin <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:23 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files
>> - and PFTFormats
>>
>> Hi Jean-Claude
>> many thanks -again- for your reply.
>> As for repeatable fields, you are certainly right: but the fact
>> is that, for some reason, we and many other users here used to
>> insert the % mark every time they needed to repeat the same
>> field, or the same subfield delimiter, or a previous subfield
>> delimiter (or a sequence of previous subfield delimiters) in a
>> specific field. I think it was on the basis of a "hint" on
>> pag. 92 of the old "Mini-micro CDS/ISIS Reference manual Version
>> 2.3" by Giampaolo Del Bigio - (1989).
>> Anyway, I tried to change the data removing the % mark in a
>> limited number of records in the Title field, and the import
>> seems now to work correctly. I'll make some test again to be sure
>> that a sort of global change deleting all the % marks in the
>> database will definitively work, also if a 'group of subfields'
>> are being repeated.
>> I'm still having problems with the REF function. :-(
>> Tag V27 (indexed as "Z=...") is a repeatable field - I need to
>> display all the records linked to the main one in a hierarchical
>> relationship "one to many" (Tag V28 is the equivalent one in the
>> "second-level" description records). The "old" syntax
>> "(REF(L(|Z=|V27),...etc..." worked well both in ISIS-DOS and
>> Winisis. I tried to change the format as you explained
>> REF(L('Z=V27')...) (?), also with some minor changes, but I get
>> no data or at most only the first record linked to the main one,
>> and not all the others.
>> I attach to this mail the "original" PRI.FST format used in TECA
>> database (imported in JISIS with minor changes) just to explain
>> what I am talking about.
>> Thanks again for your valuable and kind help
>> Kind regards
>> Giuzzo
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Jean-Claude Dauphin <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Giuzzo Barbaro <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>
>> *Cc:* isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:54 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>> Files - and PFT Formats
>>
>> Hi Giuzzo,
>>
>> > a) Repeatable subfields. when you use the % symbol to
>> repeat only some subfields of a certain field (and not the
>> whole field), the Import wizard cuts all the part of the
>> field before the % symbol . For example: TAG 1 (Title) has
>> > manysubfields delimiters: abcdefghi. If a record is
>> "^aTitle^efirst description%esecond description" it cuts the
>> Title and the first description. If you repeat the whole
>> field beginning from the first subfield the import is OK.
>> (The old CDS-
>> > ISIS Export/Import option worked well in both cases.)
>>
>> I am not sure but the use of % symbol for repeatable
>> subfields is not a valid MARC ISO2709 symbol. Repeatable
>> subfields are simply repeated as "^aTitle^efirst
>> description^esecond description". This is probably an ISIS
>> particular format for repeatable fields. When you export the
>> data in ISO2709 format, it is strange to get the % separator
>> character followed by a subfield letter .
>>
>> > b) The ISIS pft formats were not upper/lower case sensitive
>> as to the subfield delimiter (V1^a or V1^A). It seems that
>> the same formats imported in JISIS are case sensitive (?). So
>> I need to change all the subfield delimiters to one of the >
>> two formats (upper/lower). Is it correct? - The problem is
>> that someone used the upper case, someone the lower(!)
>> Well, it's true subfield delimiters are case sensitive in the
>> PFTs but it should correspond to what you have in your data,
>> i.e. if you have ^aTitle in your data, it should be ^a. It's
>> only a global change in your PFTs.
>>
>>
>> > c) How can I manage the REF function used in ISIS pft
>> formats in JISIS? TECA.pft has a REF(LV27) call, in order to
>> display the contents of the single parts of a many-volume
>> book. Is it possible to translate it somehow in JISIS pft
>> > formats?
>>
>> Have a look to page 57 and 62 of the J-ISIS Reference Manual.
>> It should be something like REF(L(V27),<format>)
>>
>> Hope this will help,
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jean-Claude Dauphin
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro
>> <g.barbaro at mclink.net <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all
>> I'm trying to import into JISIS a 6.000
>> record ISIS-WinISIS database called TECA (it is a
>> database used in many Italian libraries) and I get the
>> following problems:
>> a) Repeatable subfields. when you use the % symbol to
>> repeat only some subfields of a certain field (and not
>> the whole field), the Import wizard cuts all the part of
>> the field before the % symbol . For example: TAG 1
>> (Title) has many subfields delimiters: abcdefghi. If a
>> record is "^aTitle^efirst description%esecond
>> description" it cuts the Title and the first description.
>> If you repeat the whole field beginning from the first
>> subfield the import is OK. (The old CDS-ISIS
>> Export/Import option worked well in both cases.)
>> b) The ISIS pft formats were not upper/lower case
>> sensitive as to the subfield delimiter (V1^a or V1^A). It
>> seems that the same formats imported in JISIS are case
>> sensitive (?). So I need to change all the subfield
>> delimiters to one of the two formats (upper/lower). Is it
>> correct? - The problem is that someone used the upper
>> case, someone the lower(!)
>> c) How can I manage the REF function used in ISIS pft
>> formats in JISIS? TECA.pft has a REF(LV27) call, in order
>> to display the contents of the single parts of a
>> many-volume book. Is it possible to translate it somehow
>> in JISIS pft formats?
>> Thanks for your help
>> Bye
>> Giuzzo Barbaro
>>
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