[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files - and PFTFormats

spinaker spinaker at adinet.com.uy
Sun Apr 20 23:21:38 CEST 2014


Dear JC

With the suggested syntax, how do you distinguish between a repeatable 
field from the repeatable subfield?

Example

* v12[1] ^aPersonal Name1 ^dDates ^rRelator term 1.1 ^rRelator term 1.2
  v12[2] ^aPersonal Name2 ^dDates ^rRelator term 2.1
  v12[3] ^aPersonal Name3 ^dDates ^rRelator term 3.1 ^rRelator term 3.2*

now, you want to extract the first subfield ^r  from the third occ of 
the field v12

Regards
Ernesto Spiak



El 20/04/2014 17:32, Jcd escribió:
> Dear Guizzo,
>
> Could you please explain how you use repeatable subfields in 
> ISiS/WinISIS. I mean in PFTs. Do you think that extending PFTS 
> language with subfields occurrences such as:
> (V12^a) ->all V12^a subfields occurrences
> V12^a[1] -> occurrence 1 of subfield a field 12
> Any other ideas ?
>
> I will check yr problem with the REF function
>
> Best,
>
> Jean-Claude
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 23:33, "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net 
> <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>> wrote:
>
>> * ...ooops...: I meant "PRI.*PFT*" (!)
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Giuzzo Barbaro <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>
>>     *To:* Jean-Claude Dauphin <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
>>     *Cc:* isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:23 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files
>>     - and PFTFormats
>>
>>     Hi Jean-Claude
>>     many thanks -again- for your reply.
>>     As for repeatable fields, you are certainly right: but the fact
>>     is that, for some reason, we and many other users here used to
>>     insert the % mark every time they needed to repeat the same
>>     field, or the same subfield delimiter, or a previous subfield
>>     delimiter (or a sequence of previous subfield delimiters) in a
>>     specific field. I think it was on the basis of a "hint" on
>>     pag. 92 of the old "Mini-micro CDS/ISIS Reference manual Version
>>     2.3" by Giampaolo Del Bigio - (1989).
>>     Anyway, I tried to change the data removing the % mark in a
>>     limited number of records in the Title field, and the import
>>     seems now to work correctly. I'll make some test again to be sure
>>     that a sort of global change deleting all the % marks in the
>>     database will definitively work, also if a 'group of subfields'
>>     are being repeated.
>>     I'm still having problems with the REF function.  :-(
>>     Tag V27 (indexed as "Z=...") is a repeatable field - I need to
>>     display all the records linked to the main one in a hierarchical
>>     relationship "one to many" (Tag V28 is the equivalent one in the
>>     "second-level" description records). The "old" syntax
>>     "(REF(L(|Z=|V27),...etc..." worked well both in ISIS-DOS and
>>     Winisis. I tried to change the format as you explained
>>     REF(L('Z=V27')...) (?), also with some minor changes, but I get
>>     no data or at most only the first record linked to the main one,
>>     and not all the others.
>>     I attach to this mail the "original" PRI.FST format used in TECA
>>     database (imported in JISIS with minor changes) just to explain
>>     what I am talking about.
>>     Thanks again for your valuable and kind help
>>     Kind regards
>>     Giuzzo
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         *From:* Jean-Claude Dauphin <mailto:jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
>>         *To:* Giuzzo Barbaro <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>
>>         *Cc:* isis-users at iccisis.org <mailto:isis-users at iccisis.org>
>>         *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:54 PM
>>         *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO
>>         Files - and PFT Formats
>>
>>         Hi Giuzzo,
>>
>>         > a) Repeatable subfields. when you use the % symbol to
>>         repeat only some subfields of a certain field (and not the
>>         whole field), the Import wizard cuts all the part of the
>>         field before the % symbol . For example: TAG 1 (Title) has
>>         > manysubfields delimiters: abcdefghi. If a record is
>>         "^aTitle^efirst description%esecond description" it cuts the
>>         Title and the first description. If you repeat the whole
>>         field beginning from the first subfield the import is OK.
>>         (The old CDS-
>>         > ISIS Export/Import option worked well in both cases.)
>>
>>         I am not sure but the use of % symbol for repeatable
>>         subfields is not a valid MARC ISO2709 symbol. Repeatable
>>         subfields are simply repeated as "^aTitle^efirst
>>         description^esecond description". This is probably an ISIS
>>         particular format for repeatable fields. When you export the
>>         data in ISO2709 format, it is strange to get the % separator
>>         character followed by a subfield letter .
>>
>>         > b) The ISIS pft formats were not upper/lower case sensitive
>>         as to the subfield delimiter (V1^a or V1^A). It seems that
>>         the same formats imported in JISIS are case sensitive (?). So
>>         I need to change all the subfield delimiters to one of the >
>>         two formats (upper/lower). Is it correct? - The problem is
>>         that someone used the upper case, someone the lower(!)
>>         Well, it's true subfield delimiters are case sensitive in the
>>         PFTs but it should correspond to what you have in your data,
>>         i.e. if you have ^aTitle in your data, it should be ^a. It's
>>         only a global change in your PFTs.
>>
>>
>>         > c) How can I manage the REF function used in ISIS pft
>>         formats in JISIS? TECA.pft has a REF(LV27) call, in order to
>>         display the contents of the single parts of a many-volume
>>         book. Is it possible to translate it somehow in JISIS pft
>>         > formats?
>>
>>         Have a look to page 57 and 62 of the J-ISIS Reference Manual.
>>         It should be something like REF(L(V27),<format>)
>>
>>         Hope this will help,
>>
>>         Best,
>>
>>         Jean-Claude Dauphin
>>
>>
>>         On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro
>>         <g.barbaro at mclink.net <mailto:g.barbaro at mclink.net>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi to all
>>             I'm trying to import into JISIS a 6.000
>>             record ISIS-WinISIS database called TECA (it is a
>>             database used in many Italian libraries) and I get the
>>             following problems:
>>             a) Repeatable subfields. when you use the % symbol to
>>             repeat only some subfields of a certain field (and not
>>             the whole field), the Import wizard cuts all the part of
>>             the field before the % symbol . For example: TAG 1
>>             (Title) has many subfields delimiters: abcdefghi. If a
>>             record is "^aTitle^efirst description%esecond
>>             description" it cuts the Title and the first description.
>>             If you repeat the whole field beginning from the first
>>             subfield the import is OK. (The old CDS-ISIS
>>             Export/Import option worked well in both cases.)
>>             b) The ISIS pft formats were not upper/lower case
>>             sensitive as to the subfield delimiter (V1^a or V1^A). It
>>             seems that the same formats imported in JISIS are case
>>             sensitive (?). So I need to change all the subfield
>>             delimiters to one of the two formats (upper/lower). Is it
>>             correct? - The problem is that someone used the upper
>>             case, someone the lower(!)
>>             c) How can I manage the REF function used in ISIS pft
>>             formats in JISIS? TECA.pft has a REF(LV27) call, in order
>>             to display the contents of the single parts of a
>>             many-volume book. Is it possible to translate it somehow
>>             in JISIS pft formats?
>>             Thanks for your help
>>             Bye
>>             Giuzzo Barbaro
>>
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>>
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