[Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files - and PFTFormats
Jean-Claude Dauphin
jc.dauphin at gmail.com
Tue Apr 22 21:15:12 CEST 2014
Dear Ernesto,
I would suggest the following:
v12[3]^r[1]
to extract the first subfield ^r from the third occ of the field v12
At first glance it should be possible to implement this syntax. But I have
to check in depth if the J-ISIS PFT language grammar can accept such
commands.
Thank you for raising this issue. Please provide suggestions on how to
define PFT commands to manage repeatable subfields.
Jean-Claude
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:21 PM, spinaker <spinaker at adinet.com.uy> wrote:
> Dear JC
>
> With the suggested syntax, how do you distinguish between a repeatable
> field from the repeatable subfield?
>
> Example
>
>
>
> * v12[1] ^aPersonal Name1 ^dDates ^rRelator term 1.1 ^rRelator term 1.2
> v12[2] ^aPersonal Name2 ^dDates ^rRelator term 2.1 v12[3] ^aPersonal
> Name3 ^dDates ^rRelator term 3.1 ^rRelator term 3.2*
>
> now, you want to extract the first subfield ^r from the third occ of the
> field v12
>
> Regards
> Ernesto Spiak
>
>
>
> El 20/04/2014 17:32, Jcd escribió:
>
> Dear Guizzo,
>
> Could you please explain how you use repeatable subfields in
> ISiS/WinISIS. I mean in PFTs. Do you think that extending PFTS language
> with subfields occurrences such as:
> (V12^a) ->all V12^a subfields occurrences
> V12^a[1] -> occurrence 1 of subfield a field 12
> Any other ideas ?
>
> I will check yr problem with the REF function
>
> Best,
>
> Jean-Claude
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 23:33, "Giuzzo Barbaro" <g.barbaro at mclink.net> wrote:
>
> * ...ooops...: I meant "PRI.*PFT*" (!)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Giuzzo Barbaro <g.barbaro at mclink.net>
> *To:* Jean-Claude Dauphin <jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files - and
> PFTFormats
>
> Hi Jean-Claude
> many thanks -again- for your reply.
> As for repeatable fields, you are certainly right: but the fact is that,
> for some reason, we and many other users here used to insert the % mark
> every time they needed to repeat the same field, or the same subfield
> delimiter, or a previous subfield delimiter (or a sequence of previous
> subfield delimiters) in a specific field. I think it was on the basis of a
> "hint" on pag. 92 of the old "Mini-micro CDS/ISIS Reference manual Version
> 2.3" by Giampaolo Del Bigio - (1989).
> Anyway, I tried to change the data removing the % mark in a limited number
> of records in the Title field, and the import seems now to work correctly.
> I'll make some test again to be sure that a sort of global change deleting
> all the % marks in the database will definitively work, also if a 'group
> of subfields' are being repeated.
>
> I'm still having problems with the REF function. :-(
> Tag V27 (indexed as "Z=...") is a repeatable field - I need to display all
> the records linked to the main one in a hierarchical relationship "one to
> many" (Tag V28 is the equivalent one in the "second-level" description
> records). The "old" syntax "(REF(L(|Z=|V27),...etc..." worked well both in
> ISIS-DOS and Winisis. I tried to change the format as you explained
> REF(L('Z=V27')...) (?), also with some minor changes, but I get no data or
> at most only the first record linked to the main one, and not all the
> others.
> I attach to this mail the "original" PRI.FST format used in TECA database
> (imported in JISIS with minor changes) just to explain what I am talking
> about.
>
> Thanks again for your valuable and kind help
>
> Kind regards
> Giuzzo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jean-Claude Dauphin <jc.dauphin at gmail.com>
> *To:* Giuzzo Barbaro <g.barbaro at mclink.net>
> *Cc:* isis-users at iccisis.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:54 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Isis-users] JISIS - Problems Importing ISO Files - and
> PFT Formats
>
> Hi Giuzzo,
>
> > a) Repeatable subfields. when you use the % symbol to repeat only some
> subfields of a certain field (and not the whole field), the Import wizard
> cuts all the part of the field before the % symbol . For example: TAG 1
> (Title) has
> > many subfields delimiters: abcdefghi. If a record is "^aTitle^efirst
> description%esecond description" it cuts the Title and the first
> description. If you repeat the whole field beginning from the first
> subfield the import is OK. (The old CDS-
> > ISIS Export/Import option worked well in both cases.)
>
> I am not sure but the use of % symbol for repeatable subfields is not a
> valid MARC ISO2709 symbol. Repeatable subfields are simply repeated as "^aTitle^efirst
> description^esecond description". This is probably an ISIS particular
> format for repeatable fields. When you export the data in ISO2709 format,
> it is strange to get the % separator character followed by a subfield
> letter .
>
> > b) The ISIS pft formats were not upper/lower case sensitive as to the
> subfield delimiter (V1^a or V1^A). It seems that the same formats imported
> in JISIS are case sensitive (?). So I need to change all the subfield
> delimiters to one of the > two formats (upper/lower). Is it correct? - The
> problem is that someone used the upper case, someone the lower(!)
> Well, it's true subfield delimiters are case sensitive in the PFTs but it
> should correspond to what you have in your data, i.e. if you have ^aTitle
> in your data, it should be ^a. It's only a global change in your PFTs.
>
>
> > c) How can I manage the REF function used in ISIS pft formats in
> JISIS? TECA.pft has a REF(LV27) call, in order to display the contents of
> the single parts of a many-volume book. Is it possible to translate it
> somehow in JISIS pft
> > formats?
>
> Have a look to page 57 and 62 of the J-ISIS Reference Manual. It should
> be something like REF(L(V27),<format>)
>
> Hope this will help,
>
> Best,
>
> Jean-Claude Dauphin
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Giuzzo Barbaro <g.barbaro at mclink.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi to all
>> I'm trying to import into JISIS a 6.000 record ISIS-WinISIS database
>> called TECA (it is a database used in many Italian libraries) and I get the
>> following problems:
>> a) Repeatable subfields. when you use the % symbol to repeat only some
>> subfields of a certain field (and not the whole field), the Import wizard
>> cuts all the part of the field before the % symbol . For example: TAG 1
>> (Title) has many subfields delimiters: abcdefghi. If a record is
>> "^aTitle^efirst description%esecond description" it cuts the Title and the
>> first description. If you repeat the whole field beginning from the first
>> subfield the import is OK. (The old CDS-ISIS Export/Import option worked
>> well in both cases.)
>> b) The ISIS pft formats were not upper/lower case sensitive as to the
>> subfield delimiter (V1^a or V1^A). It seems that the same formats imported
>> in JISIS are case sensitive (?). So I need to change all the subfield
>> delimiters to one of the two formats (upper/lower). Is it correct? - The
>> problem is that someone used the upper case, someone the lower(!)
>> c) How can I manage the REF function used in ISIS pft formats in JISIS?
>> TECA.pft has a REF(LV27) call, in order to display the contents of the
>> single parts of a many-volume book. Is it possible to translate it somehow
>> in JISIS pft formats?
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>> Bye
>> Giuzzo Barbaro
>>
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